Maniacal movers

Grumbleguts
Grumbleguts Forum Participant Posts: 2
edited September 2016 in Caravan & Motorhome Chat #1

MOVERS BITE BACK - VANNERS BEWARE

Like many caravan mover users I use an extending wheel brace.  Recently I was locking the mover into place when my hand slipped off the brace.  The brace spun back at a great rate of knots and stuck me very
firmly in the face approximately 10 mm from my eye.  The end result was three teeth displaced and the possibilty of one tooth being removed as a later date.  I was very fortunate that I did not suffer more severe injuries, another user may not be so fortunate.
 Beware - MOVERS BITE BACK

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  • Fysherman
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    edited September 2016 #2

    Ouch! 

    I bet that hurt 

  • Pippah45
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    edited September 2016 #3

    Nasty one, mine has had me on the floor once which hurt a little but yours must have been very painful.  

  • Metheven
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    edited September 2016 #4

    Nasty Surprised Out of interest (and apologies for off topic) because I'm getting a mover fitted next year and undecided with manual or auto.

    How many turns is needed on the manual engagement? or is it less than a turn with 'spring back' and does it 'overcentre' and lock on?

  • Fysherman
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    edited September 2016 #5

    About 90 degrees turn but its quite hard if you are off balance. I would get a fully auto engage next time.

    Must have given him a right smack in the puss.

  • Metheven
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    edited September 2016 #6

    About 90 degrees turn but its quite hard if you are off balance. I would get a fully auto engage next time.

    Cheers 'Fysh' Smile

  • Mitsi Fendt
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    edited September 2016 #7

    I learned the same lesson as the op. Still got the scar just above the eye. There was a copious amount of blood. Now I make very sure that the wrench is fully located on the nut and hold it in place with my free hand. My advice, don't be in a rush when doing
    this task.

  • Fysherman
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    edited September 2016 #8

    Think it might be better if I got my other half to do this task in future.Surprised

  • Stephen Patrick
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    edited September 2016 #9

    I used to find it very difficult to overcome the resistance till I bought a 900mm long breaker bar. Easy now. 

  • EasyT
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    edited September 2016 #10

    Never had a great problem - ensure that the sldes are lubed at servicte

  • Cornersteady
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    edited September 2016 #11

    even though our is meant to be engaged by one side only, we generally do it together with OH, much easier. We were warned about it spring back when we first got one. Hope you're better soon

  • Navigateur
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    edited September 2016 #12

    There is a huge fore used to keep the rollers engaged onto the tyre.  I watch mine power on and notice the depression it makes on the tyre. Much deeper than it is when the same tyre runs over a piece of pipe of a similar size to the roller. Caravan is 1800kg on four tyres, so the force on the tyre is more than 1,000lbs, possibly even 2,000lbs if the tyre on the same side is lifted from ground contact

  • rovinmad
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    edited September 2016 #13

    Ouch! 

    I bet that hurt 

    Write your comments here..

     

     

    MOVERS BITE BACK - VANNERS BEWARE

    Like many caravan mover users I use an extending wheel brace.  Recently I was locking the mover into place when my hand slipped off the brace.  The brace spun back at a great rate of knots and stuck me very
    firmly in the face approximately 10 mm from my eye.  The end result was three teeth displaced and the possibilty of one tooth being removed as a later date.  I was very fortunate that I did not suffer more severe injuries, another user may not be so fortunate.
     Beware - MOVERS BITE BACK

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    Nasty!  Makes me glad mine just winds on.  It does take a bit longer though.  

  • paul56
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    edited September 2016 #14

    Similar when disengaging - still takes the 1/4 turn but it can bang back with quite a thump.

    We too use an extending wheel brace to give the extra leverage.

  • RoyandBev
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    edited September 2016 #15

    Now have a motor home but used a mover on 2 caravans over last 10 years never had that problem but as an engineer I used an extendable wrench to make the most of leverage.

    I also welded the socket to the wrench as a couple of times when I pulled the thing off the socket stayed in place as the ½ inch square drive pulled out not the socket coming of the nut as it should.

    With anything like this you need to take a bit of time and be 100% sure everything is fitted properly but if you can think of it, it can happen and sometimes things you never thought of can happen.

    Hope that makes sense but if you look at how many people engage and disengage a motor mover like this every year it is possibly into millions without this sort of incident but that knowledge dons't help when it is you that is hurt.

    A very useful tip and the more that read it the better could even be a sticky if any moderators read it safety is first and last in everything we do and seems to have happened to a few people here to some degree or other.

  • dave the rave
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    edited September 2016 #16

    The simple answer to all of these posts.......The extendable wrench is designed incorrectly!!!!!!The wrench needs to be at right angles to the hexagon  to which it is fitted (ie mover actuation toggle),....the simple and cheapest option is to purchase a
    breaker bar approx .1 mtre long.This gives a right angle leverage which makes application of the mover a simple task.the extra length plus the right angle,plus the ability to swivel makes it easy for even 71 year old men!!!!!

  • Navigateur
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    edited September 2016 #17

     makes it easy for even 71 year old men!!!!!

    Is it still difficult for 71 year-old women?.

  • black caviar
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    edited September 2016 #18

    I use the same wrench that i yse for the corner steadies , does that mean i should get a different tool?? Cheers mrs bc

  • EmilysDad
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    edited September 2016 #19

    I use the same wrench that i yse for the corner steadies , does that mean i should get a different tool?? Cheers mrs bc

    Your mover must be engaged in a different way, there's little chance of you levering my Powertouch mover on with a steady brace Wink

  • EasyT
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    edited September 2016 #20

    Do 'wind-on' movers use a corner steady brace?

  • volvoman9
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    edited September 2016 #21

    Do 'wind-on' movers use a corner steady brace?

    No not usually although they are usually the same spanner size.They are usually a longer bar to give you more leverage to operate the mechanism which is quite strong.On my mover it would be very difficult to engage with a corner brace.I suppose the only way to avoid any accidents is to engage the mover by pulling the lever towards you and then if it does slip out of your hand it will always be going away and not towards you but we tend too press down on the lever instead.I do the same myself.

    v9.

  • papgeno
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    edited September 2016 #22

    When I had a Reich mover I used the same brace to wind the steadies and the mover. Now I've got the Truma mover with the automatic engagement there's no problem as long as the handset works. 

  • EmilysDad
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    edited September 2016 #23

    When I had a Reich mover I used the same brace to wind the steadies and the mover. Now I've got the Truma mover with the automatic engagement there's no problem as long as the handset works. 

    My Reich mover just had a tube that slipped over a short bar (engaged separately) that you levered left or right to engage.

  • cyberyacht
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    edited September 2016 #24

    I had one like that on my previous van.  Can't say I've come near to being assaulted by my Powrtouch ..... yet!

  • Lamplighter
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    edited September 2016 #25

    Hi,

    I had exactly the same accident as the original poster requiring a visit to hospital and subsequent eye checks etc
    for damage which are still ongoing. In my case I believe the problem was due to the use of a long extending wrench that did not fully allow the overcentre mechanism
    to fully operate as the wrench ground first.

    Please be very careful when using an extending wrench to ensure that you can fully operate the overcentre mechanism before letting go.

  • rovinmad
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    edited September 2016 #26

    Do 'wind-on' movers use a corner steady brace?

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    Yes.  Well mine certainly does.  

  • martin24
    martin24 Forum Participant Posts: 2
    edited September 2016 #27

    Nasty Surprised Out of interest (and apologies for off topic) because I'm getting a mover fitted next year and undecided with manual
    or auto.

    How many turns is needed on the manual engagement? or is it less than a turn with 'spring back' and does it 'overcentre' and lock on?

    Write your comments here...We've got auto engagement and it's an absolute doddle.  Si Mayfield fitted it and gave us a very good price.

  • EasyT
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    edited September 2016 #28

    On my Powrtouch about half a turn. Despite arthritis in my spine and shoulder I find it easy to operate. I have the cross actuation bar and so both sides engaged from whichever side I  choose to use. Main thing is to ensure that the sliders are greased every
    service, chain lubricant rather than grease so as not to pick up grit

  • rovinmad
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    edited September 2016 #29

    On my Powrtouch about half a turn. Despite arthritis in my spine and shoulder I find it easy to operate. I have the cross actuation bar and so both sides engaged from whichever side I  choose to use. Main thing is to ensure that the sliders are greased every
    service, chain lubricant rather than grease so as not to pick up grit

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    I would call that a lever on, not a wind on.  My wind on version takes several complete turns with the brace.