Green Laning
Anyone on here like to take their 4x4 off the surfaced highway?
I do a lot of green laning and would like to mix it with staying in the caravan
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I used to do a lot when I had my Discos. The last D3 was decked out with all the G4 Challenge toys - I was probably a real nerd! Was a regular attendee at Disco3.co.uk outings and have some brilliant photos of the Disco 'walking' down 2' high rock steps
in the Peak District.Currently have a Touareg with low ratio and diff locks but haven't done as much serious stuff in that - although it's every bit as capable as the Disco.
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Do the odd bit of green laning, but my 90 is set up for RTV so not really any good for towing the van any distance. Green laning is nice if there is stuff to see, but mostly round here its quite boring.
I prefer the quarry or RTV to push myself and the vehicle, doing things you cannot do locally without being a hooligan (GLASS tread lightly and all that good stuff)
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I used to do a bit in the past then swapped to a totally unsuitable car for the job.
I've now got one that will cope so I may have another go when it gets its first scratch or ding in the supermarket.
Where do you recommend? The last one I did was around World's End so reasonablly local to you
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Used to do off road when I had the Motorbike. I'm sure off roading in a 4X4 is equally challenging. Good to see 4X4's being used in the countryside for what they were intended. AS some 4X4 drivers ( the chelsea tractor brigade) think that off roading is mounting the pavement to park near the shops.
K
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Took advantage of some of the greenlanes in Derbyshire one time when we stopped at Chatsworth.
We hadn't planned on taking my Defender, but the windscreen wipers had packed in on our usual towcar.
Unfortunately it's ex military and I'd been using it at a local pay & play day and hadn't had a chance to wash it, so the only clean surface was the sweep of the windscreen wipers
We got quite a few disapproving/hostile looks on site
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LOL Riba - When ever I take the D4 to the supermarket, no matter where I park it, even if the carpark is half empty, you can be sure someone will park next to it!
Odd when I take the 90 after a pay and play day - even if I park right at the front in a full car park - when I come back its always empty bays either side.
It was only a few weeks back that I parked in the COOP carpark on a Sunday with my daughter (7), the car park was empty bar 4 or 5 cars (out of 80-90 spaces) and I parked as far away as possible in a corner - It was raining so I went to get a trolly sorted first. I came back and a "lady" was parking next to me. I squeezed between the cars just because she had parked almost on the line and stood next to my rear door to let my daughter out (I had reversed in so was stood next to her driver door) She was a large lady and there was no way she was going to get out without hitting my door!
She wound down the window and shouted at me "will you move yourself I want to get out". Well, I'm a really laid back person in real life and quite out of character I heard myself say "Well out of all the bloody car parking spaces!"
She said "Well!" with a huff, wound the window up, drove across to the other side of the carpark and parked equally close to a new Audi - Mental!
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I could waffle on about all my holidays with the caravan spent travelling north to South Wales without touching too much Tarmac, but I probably would bore you! We only ever stayed at normal commercial sites as there was 4 others who camped and did not belong
to any clubs. Fforest Caravan and campsite at Builth were very accommodating, both with wash down and also routes.0 -
You should be more accommodating CJ. The lady may have agoraphobia.
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Only ever broke down twice as such, but car kept going. Once the exhaust rear box fell off and ended up at Bearmach in Abergavenny, the second was when the coil packed up so ended up at Bala buying and fitting a new one. Apart from that my old Range Rover rolled twice on mountains, flooded out in 3 foot of water, got stuck in a waterfall, sank in a bog and yet always got itself out and is home with the caravan in tow!
I am talking about 12 years ago mind, before the NERC act came in force plus RUPPS were being closed to vehicular access and reclassification was beginning to take place.
i used to do a lot of work repairing byways closely with Wiltshire County Council. I even ended up on TV. BBC filmed about the ethics of roading against the Ramblers Assosiation. I was representing the off roaders!
i have been on TV and radio many times over the yearsfihhting for the rights to use all vehicular rights of way, past, present and future. I have written documents and submitted surveys and reports, but stood down when my late husband passed away 4 years ago. Now GLASS on!
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LOL Riba - When ever I take the D4 to the supermarket, no matter where I park it, even if the carpark is half empty, you can be sure someone will park next to it!
Odd when I take the 90 after a pay and play day - even if I park right at the front in a full car park - when I come back its always empty bays either side.
It was only a few weeks back that I parked in the COOP carpark on a Sunday with my daughter (7), the car park was empty bar 4 or 5 cars (out of 80-90 spaces) and I parked as far away as possible in a corner - It was raining so I went to get a trolly sorted first. I came back and a "lady" was parking next to me. I squeezed between the cars just because she had parked almost on the line and stood next to my rear door to let my daughter out (I had reversed in so was stood next to her driver door) She was a large lady and there was no way she was going to get out without hitting my door!
She wound down the window and shouted at me "will you move yourself I want to get out". Well, I'm a really laid back person in real life and quite out of character I heard myself say "Well out of all the bloody car parking spaces!"
She said "Well!" with a huff, wound the window up, drove across to the other side of the carpark and parked equally close to a new Audi - Mental!
Write your comments here...when I park the 90 up at the supermarket, I usually find it's acquired a friend when I came out along with another LR owner looking for a natter
Never worry about people parking to close to me, they can bag their doors against my rock sliders 'till the cows come home
If I can't get in out, I just climb in and out though the back door
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Nice to see a bit of interest in this, I do like combining hobbies. I only started laning a few years ago so never experienced things pre NERC.
I'm a rep for the Green Lane Association BTW (North Wales area) so if anyone needs any info or wants to get out in North Wales let me know!
Vivien, I had a RRC a while back but didn't really get into things until I got the 90 - I miss that Range Rover though...
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Nice to see a bit of interest in this, I do like combining hobbies. I only started laning a few years ago so never experienced things pre NERC.
I'm a rep for the Green Lane Association BTW (North Wales area) so if anyone needs any inf
Vivien, I had a RRC a while back but didn't really get into things until I got the 90 - I miss that Range Rover though...
Write your comments here...
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Vivien, I had a RRC a while back but didn't really get into things until I got the 90 - I miss that Range Rover though...
Write your comments here... I had two classics that were dedicated off readers and 3 show vehicles that also greenlaned. I sent my last Rangie to be broken in December, still with the green oval but a Freelander 1 instead. It has been off-road although
I only got it last September, but it's special to me as it is one of the last off the Freelander1 production line in late September.. Well 29 th and the line stopped on the 30th! So, won't be seeing too much mud!I still use strips etc for towing vehicle out of mud, plus I still occasionally use my Turfor winch when needed.
i have been deafened by road noise since September and it only dawned on me on Sunday to check my tyres! Noise found! I always have ran on AT's but the set that came with the car are M&S! Lol
so, you say North Wales rep, have you done the floating bridge between Llangollen and Bala? Or is that another lane gone to the wall? Nice trip, and fantastic scenery on that one! There is a caravan and camping site at Brithdir, the owner also owns the
mountain! With tight bridges, moss laden lanes and a forest you can play in!0 -
Haven’t been out for a while, what with mates getting on a bit. Some choosing to change their 4x4s for cheaper to run road cars, some even choosing to die on me.
The very wet conditions here in the NE lately haven’t helped.
Lots of good lanes have been lost since the NERC Act and I think quite a few more will go before it runs its full course.
Done a bit of caravanning combined with Green Laning , it can work out well as long as you know you will have some back up to get you home if things go tyres-up. If I were you Lowlight I’d make plans then see who’s interested, I find that usually stirs more interest.
Now!! Where are those O/S maps?
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When i did a BBC TV program we were talking walkers vs off-roaders. A geologist, a botanist and a ornathologist all went to a post NERC closed lane. Birds had left the area as it was grossly overgrown with blackberrys, as pointed out the roots destroy the ground as well as the growth of each limb of over 8 feet each year. It swallows a green one area up making it difficult for birds and animals to survive and making it impassable by foot or car.
Vehicle using a Lane On a regular basis keeps the blackberries back allowing sunlight for plants and grasses to grow and feeding birds with insects etc.
lanes that are rutted 9 times out of 10 are caused by tractors. Yes! Cowboy off-roaders can and do do damage, but it is a very low percentage. The top soil on damaged lanes is often no more than a foot deep due to clay or similar underneath, the top soil is drenched and is cut by weight and then puddles, this is start of erosion causing ruts and damage.
The other cause of damage lanes is by farmers ploughing in the same direction year in year, this then gives poor drainage to the field Making water to take a new route, usually to a lane. This the gets washed out!
Many NERC closed lanes which crossed private land have now been lost forever, no-one whether walkers or motorised vehicles can use them as they are overgrown with brambles and weeds!
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Hi OH has had series 3, 4 classic RR 1 Disco then onto Japanese 1 Trooper now Toyota Landcruiser, have done a bit green laning in the past and been around WW1 graves twice where only 4x4's can go very interesting and now we go to a friends house in France
via a local track quite steep and twisty no problems with the landcruiser, have taken a 110 onto Quantocks many years ago a training session from work and the instructor said why have you stopped well a red deer stag and his hinds 20 feet in front of us did
not want to argue with those antlers as it was the time of the rut, fond memories.0 -
I also find the spaces in some supermarkets a bit tight for our Mitsubishi Shogun. I try to go to the far end where there are more empty spaces but it does happen that someone can park a bit too close so that you can't get in very easily.
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We have always had a 4x4, Land Rover or Jeep model of some kind. Down the years we have done quite a bit of off road driving, some on BOATs, RUPPs and some on off road driving parks. We still go to a big Jeep fest at Tong near Bradford, always a fun packed
weekend.There is still a nice little stretch of off road between Geevor Tin Mine and bottom of St Just well worth the drive. Scenery is stunning, as is the wildlife! Passes Botallack as well, nice pub in Botallack!
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My first four wheel drive car was a Suburu.
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Until the bridge is repaired on the road between us and the village, we either have to go off road - and we definitely need a 4 x 4 - or face a long diversion.
Sorry - Off Topic (not doing as a hobby!)
Write your comments here... So you have found the advantage of having to buy one! Lol
some lanes have spectacular views, many way too far to just walk too!
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Until the bridge is repaired on the road between us and the village, we either have to go off road - and we definitely need a 4 x 4 - or face a long diversion.
Sorry - Off Topic (not doing as a hobby!)
Write your comments here...bet you have got a quad?
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My first four wheel drive car was a Suburu.
We've had 5 Subarus over the years, Malc. The current one is a Forester. Proper, full time 4WD - can't beat it.
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Until the bridge is repaired on the road between us and the village, we either have to go off road - and we definitely need a 4 x 4 - or face a long diversion.
Sorry - Off Topic (not doing as a hobby!)
Write your comments here... So you have found the advantage of having to buy one! Lol
some lanes have spectacular views, many way too far to just walk too!
We've always had some sort of Land Rover. Currently a Defender and Discovery.
Until the bridge is repaired on the road between us and the village, we either have to go off road - and we definitely need a 4 x 4 - or face a long diversion.
Sorry - Off Topic (not doing as a hobby!)
Write your comments here...bet you have got a quad?
Yes, but not so good for the weekly shop, a night out or going to school
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Since 1998 I have always used 3 litre 4x4s . In the following order 1xShogun, 4 X Toyota Landcruisers and the Current Merc ML300CDI. All have been entirely reliable. The Landcruisers were by far the best until Toyota spoilt the engine by leaning it out
too much to get under the carbon limits.Have no problem with responsible green laning BUT wish that the participants would clean off the vehicles before using and parking on public roads!
TF
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It isn't always possible to clean off straight away TF, unfortunately. Organised events usually offer a wash service, which sometimes goes partly to Charity, but a lot of car wash places are somewhat reluctant, understandably, to have someone completely
wash down a very heavily muddied car. We take ours home and do it there, so we can clean up after!0 -
Is the floating bridge lane a lane with large stone blocks in teh middle that aren't wide enough for a 4x4? If I think it's technically open to traffic but impassable by anything bigger than a bike.
I organise work days which include making things really difficult to go off piste and opening up lanes to let the light in, all worth while stuff and it gives us a good name with the Local Authorities.
I've only just joined here but if there is interest I coudl do a weekender in Llangollen for anyone who want's to try it out. Will see how things go for a while first though!
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Is the floating bridge lane a lane with large stone blocks in teh middle that aren't wide enough for a 4x4? If I think it's technically open to traffic but impassable by anything bigger than a bike.
I organise work days which include making things really difficult to go off piste and opening up lanes to let the light in, all worth while stuff and it gives us a good name with the Local Authorities.
I've only just joined here but if there is interest I coudl do a weekender in Llangollen for anyone who want's to try it out. Will see how things go for a while first though!
Write your comments here...No! It's about 40 meters of railway sleepers strung togther and floating on a bog.
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