Jockey up or down (from Dec magazine)

tappylappy
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edited December 2016 in Caravan & Motorhome Chat #1

I have been caravanning for 45 years (approx), and I read with interest about whether the jockey wheel should be up or down whilst on slte. If the jockey wheel is down and the steady legs are down then any movement could put a strain on the jockey wheel.
It is designed to only take the weight of the unocupied caravan, so I always raise the jockey wheel about a couple of inches off the ground when on site and in storage, let the legs take the strain, after all that's what they are there for! This item is in
reply to Mr. Les Wilson's letter in December's magazine.

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  • EmilysDad
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    edited December 2016 #2

     ... let the legs take the strain, after all that's what they are there for!  ....

    Why do they call them 'steadies' then? Innocent

    IMHO the jockey wheel takes the weight and the steadies err .... steady Wink

  • IanH
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    edited December 2016 #3

    My understanding is that the corner steadies are only there to steady the caravan and not to take the weight. The jockey wheel takes the weight.

    We always leave it down while on site.

    That said, we have a pneumatic jockey wheel and I've decided that it would be better not to have the weight on it while stored at home. So I've put a big block of wood under the hitch to take the weight (so it's still not on the steadies) and have wound
    the jockey wheel up into the A frame.

  • Kennine
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    edited December 2016 #4

    With every caravan I've owned, I have always had the Jockey wheel down except when towing.  No problems ever either on site or on the drive. 

    Cheers...............K

  • NIMROD
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    edited December 2016 #5

    I have always left the jockey wheel down when on site or in storage. May not be scientific but I feel assured with it in contact with the ground. Caravans with the the jockey wheel up on site always look precarious.

  • moulesy
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    edited December 2016 #6

    Yes, I'm with the jockey wheel down unless towing camp too! Happy

  • JayEss
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    edited December 2016 #7

    We were told by the dealer when we bought our first van to leave the jockey wheel down. It's in our current handbook that the jockey wheel should be down. So we leave it down. 

    We pitched opposite a van with the jockey wheel up recently and it was definitely not steady. 

  • ChemicalJasper
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    edited December 2016 #8

    Jockey wheel down!Laughing

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2016 #9

    Our c/van is fitted with the Alko premium jockey wheel,so to save stress on the weight gauge it is left with wheel just clear of the surfaceWink

  • Freedom a whitebox
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    edited December 2016 #10

    I see it as the wheels take the weight of the caravan and the steadies balance it and stop it tipping either backwards or forwards. Putting the jockey wheel down will assist the front ones but not the rear ones. 

    This is a subject that I've given a lot of thought to as I have  the E&P levelling system fitted and was concerned about stresses being put where they shouldn't be. My jockey wheel is either lifted off the floor (or totally removed when at home).  Once the system is deployed, the caravan is as steady as if it was built up on a brick foundation. 

  • EasyT
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    edited December 2016 #11

    Jockey wheel down when not towing

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited December 2016 #12

    Jockey down. The cornersteadies are just that and not meant to bear weight.

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited December 2016 #13

    To my mind the jockey wheel is part of the chassis structure and as such it should help support the chassis by being in contact with the ground. Certainly that  was the view I took over 30 years of caravanning. 

    David

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited December 2016 #14

    With every caravan I've owned, I have always had the Jockey wheel down except when towing.  No problems ever either on site or on the drive. 

    Cheers...............K

    Same for us too. The more points of contact to the ground the better, as far as I'm concerned.

  • IamtheGaitor
    IamtheGaitor Forum Participant Posts: 529
    edited December 2016 #15

    Down, weight on wheels - steadies wound down till they touch then back a fraction.  With a twin axle you can walk about inside with no steadies down and its just a bit bouncy but feels fine.  Legs are just for balance not to take any strain.

  • volvoman9
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    edited December 2016 #16

    Jockey wheel down.

    v9

  • trellis
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    edited December 2016 #17

    Just like to thank tappylappy for starting this thread , I've often seen units on site with the jockey wheel up and thought it strange .I fall into "wheel up only when towing" .

  • ChemicalJasper
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    edited December 2016 #18

    I see it as the wheels take the weight of the caravan and the steadies balance it and stop it tipping either backwards or forwards. Putting the jockey wheel down will assist the front ones but not the rear ones. 

    This is a subject that I've given a lot of thought to as I have  the E&P levelling system fitted and was concerned about stresses being put where they shouldn't be. My jockey wheel is either lifted off the floor (or totally removed when at home).  Once the
    system is deployed, the caravan is as steady as if it was built up on a brick foundation. 

    Am I correct in thinking that the E&P has two main jacks in the centre behind the wheels which take the majority of the weight of the chassis?

  • indoors
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    edited December 2016 #19

    Hi all,

    On a standard single axle caravan there are three points designed to take the weight of the 'van, two wheels and hitch ( whether coupled or not ) When on site and one is expected to enter the caravan it must be as level across the axle and from front to
    rear as possible. the corner legs can then be lowered to steady the 'van. Under no circumstances should the steadies be used to lift the 'van. For those that ( wrongly IMO ) the jockey wheel should be lifted, why not lift the legs so high to lift the wheels
    off the gound !! BTW would all who wish to raise the jockey make note in the 'vans manual ( I'll know not to buy it when it comes up for sale.

    Happy caravanning.

  • SteveL
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    edited December 2016 #20

    Jockey wheel down also.

  • IanH
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    edited December 2016 #21

    Crikey! We're all in agreement! Laughing

  • Pippah45
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    edited December 2016 #22

    Is that a first???  I am in agreement too!  The only jockey wheel I have had that wasn't all that robust was the removable one I had to fit when the old tow car got so low I couldn't clear the wheel so fitted a removable.  The clamp for that was pathetic. 

  • Cornersteady
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    edited December 2016 #23

    Jockey down. The cornersteadies are just that and not meant to bear weight.

    whew, good - I'm not that strong

    Always down for me too

  • Whittakerr
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    edited December 2016 #24

    Definitely down. So that's that sorted. Happy

  • Freedom a whitebox
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    edited December 2016 #25

    I see it as the wheels take the weight of the caravan and the steadies balance it and stop it tipping either backwards or forwards. Putting the jockey wheel down will assist the front ones but not the rear ones. 

    This is a subject that I've given a lot of thought to as I have  the E&P levelling system fitted and was concerned about stresses being put where they shouldn't be. My jockey wheel is either lifted off the floor (or totally removed when at home).  Once the
    system is deployed, the caravan is as steady as if it was built up on a brick foundation. 

    Am I correct in thinking that the E&P has two main jacks in the centre behind the wheels which take the majority of the weight of the chassis?

    yes the E&P system has six rams. Two on axle, that sort out the level across the van and can lift the wheels clear of the ground. They work independently of each other.

    Then  there is one on each corner, fitted on Alko heavy duty steadies. 

  • black caviar
    black caviar Forum Participant Posts: 242
    edited December 2016 #26

    Being a mere woman i do wonder why caravans never had a wheel at each corner and a swivelling hitch like a farm trailer ? They would just seem more stable to me has there ever been one does anyone know? Cheers mrs bc:)

  • MJ730
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    edited December 2016 #27

    Another one for down.

    Mike

  • Lutz
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    edited December 2016 #28

    Being a mere woman i do wonder why caravans never had a wheel at each corner and a swivelling hitch like a farm trailer ? They would just seem more stable to me has there ever been one does anyone know? Cheers mrs bc:)

    Enough owners have problems reversing the existing arrangement with the axle in the middle. I shudder to think how most would cope with an arrangement like a farm trailer.

    If the jockey takes the load at the front and the steadies only do the job of steadying, how do the steadies at the rear cope when the occupants are down at that end?

  • Oneputt
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    edited December 2016 #29

    Someone should have told this MHomer that it's a steady not to take the whole weight, engine as well!

  • 2blackcats
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    edited December 2016 #30

    Wonder if not balancing the caravan and supporting it what the purpose of the jockey wheel is other than using it for parking on site. I have caravaned many years and have never encountered any debate on whether up or down on site, Surely down allows for
    better levelling and support.for the van. I think my jockey wheel is a better stabalisor than the flimsy steadies.

  • Metheven
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    edited December 2016 #31

    Arrive on site, level sideways if needed, unhitch, adjust jockey wheel for front to back leveling, forget about jockey wheel and drop steadies. So its jockey wheel down.