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  • cyberyacht
    cyberyacht Forum Participant Posts: 10,218
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    edited January 2016 #32

    The Alko carrier is clearly an afterthought creation whilst the Avondale tray was a properly designed feature.

  • ocsid
    ocsid Forum Participant Posts: 1,395
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    edited January 2016 #33

    The Alko carrier is clearly an afterthought creation whilst the Avondale tray was a properly designed feature.

    I doubt the assumption is correct.

    I am sure the Al_Ko concept was from day one to offer the market a modular system where buyers could specify what build up of items they wanted. 

  • commeyras
    commeyras Club Member Posts: 1,853 ✭✭✭
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    edited January 2016 #34

    OCSID your probably right but it is a useless bit of kit.  Try changing a wheel in the pouring rain and struggling to get the spare from under the caravan.  I put mine under fixed bed as close to axle as possible.  In 40 years of caravanning have only had
    one flat trye - a blow out with a tyre that was 7 years old (have learned my lesson now!).

  • Scottie2
    Scottie2 Forum Participant Posts: 226
    edited January 2016 #35

    The Alko carrier is clearly an afterthought creation whilst the Avondale tray was a properly designed feature.

    I doubt the assumption is correct.

    I am sure the Al_Ko concept was from day one to offer the market a modular system where buyers could specify what build up of items they wanted. 

    Write your comments here...I think the ALKO chassis spare wheel carrier had a basic intention in that it's reducing the nose weight of the caravan. When you think how in the past the average caravan probably had, in the front locker, a spare wheel, 2 x 6kg
    gas bottles, numerous levelling blocks, a jack and handle, and wellie boots....On top of this within the first five  feet inside the caravan you had a 110 amp battery and maybe a full 10 litre hot water heater. No wonder the nose weight caused concern and
    something had to be done by the makers.

  • cyberyacht
    cyberyacht Forum Participant Posts: 10,218
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    edited January 2016 #36

    ..and yet still manufacturers seem incapable of designing a van with a sensible initial noseweight. How often do we read of members commenting on the struggle to get down to a realistic noseweight?

  • EmilysDad
    EmilysDad Forum Participant Posts: 8,973
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    edited January 2016 #37

     ...  Try changing a wheel in the pouring rain and struggling to get the spare from under the caravan. ...

    The same can be said for many cars where the spare is stowed under the back end in a wind down cage ..... that's where my Dad's Kia Sedona spare is. I refitted his recently cos he didn't have the strength to hold the spare up while he connected the wind
    down bit. And in a place where it's likely to be ignored ie tyre pressure

  • JVB66
    JVB66 Forum Participant Posts: 22,892
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    edited January 2016 #38

    I am quite happy with where ever my. spare is on what ever vehicle its on as long as it has one ,rather than ridiculous system that is being employed by some manufactures of "repair" kits ,and Mayday are our tyre changers !!

  • Scottie2
    Scottie2 Forum Participant Posts: 226
    edited January 2016 #39

    I am quite happy with where ever my. spare is on what ever vehicle its on as long as it has one ,rather than ridiculous system that is being employed by some manufactures of "repair" kits ,and Mayday are our tyre changers !!

    Write your comments here...Yes, same here, Mayday would be called out if a puncture occurred . The risk of being hit by other vehicles whilst attempting to change a wheel  has to be taken into account.

  • RangeRoverMan
    RangeRoverMan Forum Participant Posts: 125
    edited January 2016 #40

    I think I'll stick with mine in the front locker. Yes I suppose along with 2 hook up cables, 2 Calorlites, timber packing, various spanners, aquaroll handles and all the other things one accumulates it is well over the noseweight limit. But as,in around
    50 years of towing, I've never checked it I don't let it worry me

     

  • surburban2000
    surburban2000 Forum Participant Posts: 84
    edited January 2016 #41

    I wont cary one ill cary two HappyJ&I

  • JVB66
    JVB66 Forum Participant Posts: 22,892
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    edited January 2016 #42

    Today we were "just looking" at caravans and noted the spare wheel on the model we were"just looking " at was mounted underneath on a wind down cable Surprised

  • commeyras
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    edited January 2016 #43

    JVB that looks good!  Has anyone done a retrofit for this (Ihave a Bailey with the ALKO carrier). MM, once had a Citroen Zara and agree the underslung spare was a pain and VERY difficult to both release and return.  Never had to do it in anger.

  • JVB66
    JVB66 Forum Participant Posts: 22,892
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    edited January 2016 #44

    I think the wind down is now standard fit on most models of the brand I was looking atWink

     

     

     

     

     

    BaileyCool

  • intransient1
    intransient1 Forum Participant Posts: 15
    edited January 2016 #45

    I removed my spare wheel carrier and the whhel is in a bag inside the van over the axel when travelling.

    this saved nearly 7kg which on my van is nearly 5% of the user weight.

  • rayjsj
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    edited January 2016 #46

    The Alko carrier is clearly an afterthought creation whilst the Avondale tray was a properly designed feature.

    Write your comments here...Avon dale did

    ..and yet still manufacturers seem incapable of designing a van with a sensible initial noseweight. How often do we read of members commenting on the struggle to get down to a realistic noseweight?

    Write your comments here...again, Avondale did this year's ago, Gas cupboard in side of van, in line with,or just behind axle, Spare wheel set into floor in plastic moulded tray, again near axle line. Don't  other Caravan design engineers even think of these
    things ? I'm  sure that any patents died with Avondale 's  demise.   Nose weight was then easy to control, and far safer.

  • Nuggy
    Nuggy Forum Participant Posts: 512
    edited January 2016 #47

    In the 1990's I had a Swift Corniche 14/2 caravan which had a locker at the back of the caravan, made just deep enough for the spare wheel to be stored in it. Why was such a good idea dropped and vans no longer made like this. It was common sense, good for
    load distribution and easy access if needed.

  • Lyke Wake Man
    Lyke Wake Man Forum Participant Posts: 238
    edited January 2016 #48

    their was an alko spair wheel carrier on our van when we got it, I removed and sold it, it pulled out to the nearside, when I did need a spair on a caravan ther was a two and  half foot kerc where I stoped, so the carrier would have not come out without
    pulling to the other side of the road, our spair is clean and travles in the car boot, then on site it goes in the gas locker, their is a propper space between the gas cyls

  • Landlubber
    Landlubber Forum Participant Posts: 65
    edited February 2016 #49

    I'm not sure what others have a problem with. I carry mine in the front locker where it is easy to get at I never have a problem balancing the nose weight up to the max 76kg. The Al-Ko chassis has a place for underslinging carrier and this can be fitted
    to either left or right side for continental use a must if you go abroad. I use this carrier to carry my satelite dish which is 1 m in size and fits snugly up to the bottom of the van floor in a foam lined case so we can get all UK channels when in France
    Happy 

  • Pageantpete07
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    edited February 2016 #50

    Is checking and greasing the spare wheel carrier part of the anual service or is it a chargeable extra?

  • JVB66
    JVB66 Forum Participant Posts: 22,892
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    edited February 2016 #51

    Is checking and greasing the spare wheel carrier part of the anual service or is it a chargeable extra?

    ...It is at the place ours is serviced as part of the service

  • Landlubber
    Landlubber Forum Participant Posts: 65
    edited February 2016 #52

    Hi JVB,

    I'm not sure why you ask this question since if you ever have to use the spare wheel you have a problem. Take the time to practice getting the spare down and when you do slap some grease on the poles at the same time - you just serviced it Wink

  • JVB66
    JVB66 Forum Participant Posts: 22,892
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    edited February 2016 #53

    Hi JVB,

    I'm not sure why you ask this question since if you ever have to use the spare wheel you have a problem. Take the time to practice getting the spare down and when you do slap some grease on the poles at the same time - you just serviced it Wink

    ..I did not ask ,I was replying to previos post I pay Mayday to change oursWink 

  • JVB66
    JVB66 Forum Participant Posts: 22,892
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    edited February 2016 #54

    Hi JVB,

    I'm not sure why you ask this question since if you ever have to use the spare wheel you have a problem. Take the time to practice getting the spare down and when you do slap some grease on the poles at the same time - you just serviced it Wink

    ..I did not ask ,I was replying to previos post I pay Mayday to change oursWink 

    ...Ps new van spare has wind down cable to release from interiorSmile

  • Landlubber
    Landlubber Forum Participant Posts: 65
    edited February 2016 #55

    Hi JVB

    It was intended for the previous post or any one interested - sorry. I often see people sat around broken down vehicles including caravans on the road side, sometimes out of reach of phone signals and motorways etc and for many reasons, often just punctures.
    I hope you take note of how it winds down and how to service the winder mechanism in the event you ever find yourself in that position on some dark, windy, lonely place in the countryside - hope this helps and hope you don't take offence at the suggestion
    of DIY. Happy 

  • JVB66
    JVB66 Forum Participant Posts: 22,892
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    edited February 2016 #56

    Hi JVB

    It was intended for the previous post or any one interested - sorry. I often see people sat around broken down vehicles including caravans on the road side, sometimes out of reach of phone signals and motorways etc and for many reasons, often just punctures.
    I hope you take note of how it winds down and how to service the winder mechanism in the event you ever find yourself in that position on some dark, windy, lonely place in the countryside - hope this helps and hope you don't take offence at the suggestion
    of DIY. Happy 

    ...At nightSurprised I take cover if towing on run up to duskWink

  • Landlubber
    Landlubber Forum Participant Posts: 65
    edited February 2016 #57

    Hi JVB,

    I detect you are a man of great vision and wisdom...Smile

  • Lyke Wake Man
    Lyke Wake Man Forum Participant Posts: 238
    edited February 2016 #58

    the trouble withn those carriers, is they pull out to the nearside, if their is a 1 foot + kerb, you are then in trouble, our van had one when we bought it, but it was designed to have the spair wheel in the gas box, as their is a place for it inbetween
    the gas bottles, we soold the carrier, but we tow with it in the car boot as with it in the gas box it is nose heavy

  • Branquinho
    Branquinho Forum Participant Posts: 1
    edited December 2016 #59

    yes