What are you all up to today? - part 3

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  • Bakers2
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    edited November 2016 #5732

    Youngsters should be taught money management at school IMO.

    I think it needs to start at home and be continued throughout growing up including at school. Sadly some parents don't know how themselves .  Because so much is now done without cash the concept is much harder. One is unable to see how much you had and
    how much is left after a spend.

    My mother often recounts the time I asked my dad for something and he said he had no money. I told him to go into the bank and they'd give him some . At that time I hadn't got the concept that to take out it had to be actually in the bank .

  • Bakers2
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    edited November 2016 #5733

    Putting up the boundry fence today at the boatyard,sawn Chestnut stakes,stainless strainer wire on tensioners,clad with sheep netting,stapled and wired.Burning some of the Privet debris.Lovely day weatherwise ,cloudy but bright spells and warm,no wind.After
    dinner (cold sausages,re-hashed chips and sweetcorn) off to a local pub' to see " Smiler" ,a VERY good band .Laughing.

    Sounds like another productive day for you. .Watch out for those flowerbeds

  • Goldie146
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    Glad you are having a good time with the rellies, where are you this weekend? 

    The sun is setting and the sky looks fab once again, pearly grey shot through with reds and pinks.

    Been busy cleaning the oven and the microwave, now all sparkly cleanSmile shame I've got to use it for the dinner tonightFrown

    My experiment of using the slow cooker to cook the lentils and yellow split peas has worked out fine, only took a few hours of free electric (solar panels) didn't have to keep going and adding water and no burnt pan either (they always stick)

    Goldie, excuse me for not knowing but don't farmers have less to do in winter than at any other time of year, or is it because the days are so short you can't get so much done, just interested.

    Absolutely not! We have 250 cattle inside now. They all have to be fed (at least once) and mucked out every day. The cows are milked twice a day. In summer when the cows are outside there is less feeding, and deifinitley less mucking out. There may be less daylight now but we still start work at 05:00 and finish after 6.30 at night. "Doing up" - the feeding/mucking out etc - takes longer, so there is less time inbetween for other farming jobs (hedging, muck spreading and the rest). In summer we can get by with one person, plus a farm worker three days a week. In winter we need both my son and husband. If we want some time off we work harder to make it possible. On Christmas Day we will start work an hour earlier to have more "time off".

    My son has gone to a party tonight and finished at 5 -so my husband will be later finishing, Then at 10.00 he'll go ut to do the night check (walking round all the stock).

    I don't want this to sound like a moan - it isn't. Winter may be hard work, but that's what we do. And don't start to ask about Spring work. That's what more daylight hours are for - to get more work done after milking.

    Would I change my life? No way. 

  • Bakers2
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    edited November 2016 #5735

    Just drawn the curtains and was surprised to see our neighbours opposite have put a Christmas wreath on the door

  • Bakers2
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    edited November 2016 #5736

    Goldie the joy of livestock .  Farming is not a job its a way of life .

  • Pliers
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    edited November 2016 #5737

     

    Drove to Crosby, north Liverpool, and had a walk along the beach looking at Anthony Gormleys sculptures,  Another Place,   and they were quite magnificent, in my opinion. The weather helped as long shadows were cast and several ships passed
    close by on leaving Liverpool. Worth a visit if you are in the area.

     

    Agree totally.

    A representation of anybody physically or mentally in Another Place. Or so I was told!  

  • KjellNN
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    edited November 2016 #5738

    Youngsters should be taught money management at school IMO.

    I think it needs to start at home and be continued throughout growing up including at school. Sadly some parents don't know how themselves .  Because so much is now done without cash the concept is much harder. One is unable to see how much you had and
    how much is left after a spend.

    My mother often recounts the time I asked my dad for something and he said he had no money. I told him to go into the bank and they'd give him some . At that time I hadn't got the concept that to take out it had to be actually in the bank .

    The problem is that many of the parents themselves do not have a clue.   So they cannot teach their children anything.

    Looking at many young people today ( the 18-25 year olds), many seem to expect that they should have everything they had when their parents supported them, be able to have their own place with everything they want, but have no idea how they are going to
    pay for it.

    So they get credit cards and loans and run up debts which they cannot repay.  Even those whose parents are responsible with money can find themselves in difficulty if they have not been given the basic information on money management.  So it needs to be
    taught in school.  

    A lot of parents seem to assume their children somehow know about money, so they do not bother to actually teach them anything.

  • Tammygirl
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    Goldie, thanks for explaining I'm sure I'm not the only one who would have thought with winter, life got a little less hectic for the farmers. From what you say it appears that its far from that for the dairy farmer. Trust me it doesn't sound like a moan
    at all Smile

    When we were in town today there was a Santa's grotto and the queue was substantial, the poor kids starting christmas this early, where has all the magic gone.

    How to manage money should certainly start early in life, once learnt it stays with you. Things have changed so much from our parents (and our early days) days when wages were paid weekly in cash.

    I once borrowed £2 from my dad until payday. He gave it to me no problem, come payday I gave him his £2 back. A few days later I was broke again so borrowed the £2 again. This went on for a couple of weeks, Dad being very clever let me get in a pickle, until
    the final time I gave him his £2 back he said " now tell me is this my money or your money"  it taught me that borrowing money didn't solve the lack of it as you always have to give it back.

  • KjellNN
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    edited November 2016 #5740

    Glorious sunset at the moment, cold day after frosty start no breeze, but clouded over early afternoon, which makes the sunset all the more surprising. 

    Thought I was being excluded again earlier but noticed on latest activity that there's been none for anyone!

    Gave up on knitting the socks, completed first row and although on three needles I still had a straight line . I certainly don't need the socks or know how to knit them. (My Gran used to always have some on the go, stemmed from the first world war and continued. My aunt told me if an army lorry went through she'd give them socks.) Was just a whim awhile ago, to buy wool which included the pattern, will find another use for the wool. 

    On a brighter front I found an advent calendar I bought for us in the sales and hadn't made granddaughter's took precedence the following year so that will be my next project.

    Went to a garden centre with cafe, really busy . There was a Father Christmas in residence already, appointments can be made online long queues to see him and to use the cafe! Bought lovely Christmas plant arrangement as a gift, just got to keep it flourishing .

     

    Oh dear, B2, I think knitting is becoming a forgotten skill these days.

    My Mum taught us all to knit (2 boys and 2 girls), I doubt my older brother can still remember, but I quite enjoy it now and again.  I even remember the special way of casting on that she taught me.

    My 2 younger sisters are "knitting machines", they always have something on the go!  When the older one comes away with us we have to keep her supplied with wool so she has something to do.  This year she made us each a pair of thick cosy socks within a few days.

    OH's mum was a great knitter too, OH's dad only wore hand knitted socks, so she always had a pair under manufacture, according to OH these were made from 3-ply wool, whatever that is.

    In Norway we tend to only use the thicker wools, OH says it is "double knitting".

    For socks we use 4 needles rather than the UK 3 needles, but the principle is the same.

  • Wherenext
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    edited November 2016 #5741

    Omg

  • Wherenext
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    edited November 2016 #5742

    Drove home today from 6 night stop at Southport. Big frost overnight and some ice on roads near site but sunny for most of the way with occasional bits of fog.

    Got caught up in traffic jams from Widnes to Runcorn. Anybody in the area should avoid like the plague until road improvements completed.

    Unpacked. Feel so much more relaxed after week away. 

  • Wherenext
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    edited November 2016 #5743

    Thanks to Ian for his detailed explanation. I'm jealous.

  • Bakers2
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    edited November 2016 #5744

    Glorious sunset at the moment, cold day after frosty start no breeze, but clouded over early afternoon, which makes the sunset all the more surprising. 

    Thought I was being excluded again earlier but noticed on latest activity that there's been none for anyone!

    Gave up on knitting the socks, completed first row and although on three needles I still had a straight line . I certainly don't need the socks or know how to knit them. (My Gran used to always have some on the go, stemmed from the first world war and continued. My aunt told me if an army lorry went through she'd give them socks.) Was just a whim awhile ago, to buy wool which included the pattern, will find another use for the wool. 

    On a brighter front I found an advent calendar I bought for us in the sales and hadn't made granddaughter's took precedence the following year so that will be my next project.

    Went to a garden centre with cafe, really busy . There was a Father Christmas in residence already, appointments can be made online long queues to see him and to use the cafe! Bought lovely Christmas plant arrangement as a gift, just got to keep it flourishing .

     

    Oh dear, B2, I think knitting is becoming a forgotten skill these days.

    My Mum taught us all to knit (2 boys and 2 girls), I doubt my older brother can still remember, but I quite enjoy it now and again.  I even remember the special way of casting on that she taught me.

    My 2 younger sisters are "knitting machines", they always have something on the go!  When the older one comes away with us we have to keep her supplied with wool so she has something to do.  This year she made us each a pair of thick cosy socks within a few days.

    OH's mum was a great knitter too, OH's dad only wore hand knitted socks, so she always had a pair under manufacture, according to OH these were made from 3-ply wool, whatever that is.

    In Norway we tend to only use the thicker wools, OH says it is "double knitting".

    For socks we use 4 needles rather than the UK 3 needles, but the principle is the same.

    Dare I admit it I was using four needles, three with stitches on and one to knit with, think I may have misunderstood the pattern instructions at this point I don't care!  I could have googled it but for once I was happy to accept my inadequacy . I don't usually give up but this time I decided I wasn't interested enough, if I managed one I'd got to do another . Yes your wife us right on the ply, I have 4 ply for the sock pattern, it will find a good use in time. I'm not nor ever have been a great knitter - I prefer sewing, you can cut out and pin together to see if it fits etc before spending hours making it only to find you could have made it longer/shorter. Delighted to hear you knit, sailors used to do it too. My mother kept us kitted out in home knit jumpers and cardigans until we were late teenagers, also her and my dad.

  • ABM
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    edited November 2016 #5745

    My  Aged  Sister  still  knits  for  others { I've  got  some  wool  here,  could  you  do  me  a  **********  or  whatever  Innocent}  so  on  my  normally  twice  weekly  visits  I  get  the  full  blast  of  both  barrels  !!  Mutter  mutter,  they  expect  me  to  knit  with  this  string,  grouse,  grouse,  groan   !  She  doesnt  really  mind  the  knitting  per  se,  she  can  manage  that  at  midnight  in  a  black  bag,  but  the  sewing  together  is  a  problem as  she  ages  and  her  sight  fails.  She  would  not  mind  really  but  the  worst  offender  is  her  daughter  ,  which  young  lady  she  taught  to  knit,  sew  etc  tho  her  youth  !

    Still  It  saves  me  having  to  think  of  things  to  talk  about  !!

     

    EDIT  :--

      Its  been  foggy  here  in  South  Cheshire,  all  day  until  about  an  hour  and  a  half  ago,  then  it  started  clearing  and  warming  up  a  touch.  It  would  have  been  a  nice  day,  if  I  could  have  seen  some  of  it Yell !!

  • nelliethehooker
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    Enjoy your trips Francis, brue and nth. Weather forecast for next week looks very cold but bright and sunny.  Today is bright and sunny here and now the frost has cleared isn't too cold.  I have just swept up a load of leaves which kept me warm.  Before
    that we went to order our new stair and landing carpet - hooray!!  Mr H surprised me this morning by saying he had measured up while I was out yesterday so did I want to go and choose.Happy Measurements
    being checked tomorrow morning and carpet being fitted on Wednesday.  They are a family firm that we have used for years.  Mr H used to play darts with the present owner's father.

    Write your comments here...

    Thanks Millie

    +1Wink

  • nelliethehooker
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    Met our relarives they arrived just after 1 so now all in the pub having a beer together good times then back to the vans for dinner

    Hope you enjoy your time together. Where are you staying?

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited November 2016 #5748

    Drove home today from 6 night stop at Southport. Big frost overnight and some ice on roads near site but sunny for most of the way with occasional bits of fog.

    Got caught up in traffic jams from Widnes to Runcorn. Anybody in the area should avoid like the plague until road improvements completed.

    Unpacked. Feel so much more relaxed after week away. 

    That's good to know. Have you any idea of when the roadworks will be complete? We had intended going that route in 2 weeks time, through to Chester.

  • KjellNN
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    Oh dear, B2, I think knitting is becoming a forgotten skill these days.

    My Mum taught us all to knit (2 boys and 2 girls), I doubt my older brother can still remember, but I quite enjoy it now and again.  I even remember the special way of casting on that she taught me.

    My 2 younger sisters are "knitting machines", they always have something on the go!  When the older one comes away with us we have to keep her supplied with wool so she has something to do.  This year she made us each a pair of thick cosy socks within a
    few days.

    OH's mum was a great knitter too, OH's dad only wore hand knitted socks, so she always had a pair under manufacture, according to OH these were made from 3-ply wool, whatever that is.

    In Norway we tend to only use the thicker wools, OH says it is "double knitting".

    For socks we use 4 needles rather than the UK 3 needles, but the principle is the same.

    Dare I admit it I was using four needles, three with stitches on and one to knit with, think I may have misunderstood the pattern instructions at this point I don't care!  I could have googled it but for once I was happy to accept my inadequacy . I
    don't usually give up but this time I decided I wasn't interested enough, if I managed one I'd got to do another . Yes your wife us right on the ply, I have 4 ply for the sock pattern, it will find a good use in time. I'm not nor ever have been a great knitter
    - I prefer sewing, you can cut out and pin together to see if it fits etc before spending hours making it only to find you could have made it longer/shorter. Delighted to hear you knit, sailors used to do it too. My mother kept us kitted out in home knit
    jumpers and cardigans until we were late teenagers, also her and my dad.

    Yes a 3 needle (UK) set up requires 4 needles in total, the 4th one being the one you knit onto.

    So in Norway we use 5 needles in total, 4 plus the one you knit onto.

  • Tammygirl
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    Bakers2, when I knit socks its with 4 needles 3 have knitting on and the 4th is the one you use to knit/transfer the knitting to, if that makes sense, you could always use a circular needle. I'm fascinated watching the Germans (possibly other europeans aswell)
    the way they knit. Its a bit like half knitting and half crochet.

    I know what you mean about once you've finished it the problem comes if it doesn't fit.

    I'm trying to get my head round a crochet pattern just now, its been a long time since I've made anything following a pattern. I think I will need a few trials first.

    MillieH, I think the advert I saw for embroidery was when we were away a few weeks ago, the only magazine OH can remember us having in the van was the supplement out of the weekend paper, sorry. Will keep my eyes open incase I see anything
    that you might like.

  • Tammygirl
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    edited November 2016 #5751

    Mine again Smile

  • triky auto
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    edited November 2016 #5752

    Putting up the boundry fence today at the boatyard,sawn Chestnut stakes,stainless strainer wire on tensioners,clad with sheep netting,stapled and wired.Burning some of the Privet debris.Lovely day weatherwise ,cloudy but bright spells and warm,no wind.After
    dinner (cold sausages,re-hashed chips and sweetcorn) off to a local pub' to see " Smiler" ,a VERY good band .Laughing.

    Sounds like another productive day for you. .Watch out for those flowerbeds

    Write your comments here...Thanks " B 2".Laughing.

  • EasyT
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    edited November 2016 #5753

    Bakers2, when I knit socks its with 4 needles 3 have knitting on and the 4th is the one you use to knit/transfer the knitting to, if that makes sense, you could always use a circular needle. I'm fascinated watching the Germans (possibly other europeans aswell)
    the way they knit. Its a bit like half knitting and half crochet.

    I know what you mean about once you've finished it the problem comes if it doesn't fit.

    I'm trying to get my head round a crochet pattern just now, its been a long time since I've made anything following a pattern. I think I will need a few trials first.

    MillieH, I think the advert I saw for embroidery was when we were away a few weeks ago, the only magazine OH can remember us having in the van was the supplement out of the weekend paper, sorry. Will keep my eyes open incase I see anything
    that you might like.

    Grown men ... and women, used to weep teaching me to knit. I could sew and make dresses, shirts and even flameco dresses etc but when it came to knitting I could make the holes but could never join them up! When women folk had a problem with a pattern my
    F-in-L would soon sort it. . 

  • Malcolm Mehta
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    edited November 2016 #5754

    Has anyone tried cross stitch?

  • Malcolm Mehta
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    edited November 2016 #5755

    We got up a bit later this morning because of an absolutely exhausting day yesterday. From midday onwards, the orders came in non-stop.

    We had one lunchtime delivery as far out as Shoreham. So we had to use the Shoreham drive in Macdonalds.

    The last order was at 21:45 and then we were able to finish.

     

  • JayEss
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    edited November 2016 #5756

    Socks are all I knit nowadays. 

    If using needles I use 5. Splitting the stitches across 4 holding needles makes turning the heel easier. For plain socks I use a circular needle and the magic loop method. 

  • ggregu
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    Drove home today from 6 night stop at Southport. Big frost overnight and some ice on roads near site but sunny for most of the way with occasional bits of fog.

    Got caught up in traffic jams from Widnes to Runcorn. Anybody in the area should avoid like the plague until road improvements completed.

    Unpacked. Feel so much more relaxed after week away. 

    That's good to know. Have you any idea of when the roadworks will be complete? We had intended going that route in 2 weeks time, through to Chester.

    I come from that area and still have family living there. The roadworks are associated with a long term project to build a new crossing over the Mersey. Many roads are affected and my family report daily chaos!

    For Chester, a far better route would be M6, then M56 which avoids the roadworks altogether.

    Hope this helps.

  • milliehull
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    Bakers2, when I knit socks its with 4 needles 3 have knitting on and the 4th is the one you use to knit/transfer the knitting to, if that makes sense, you could always use a circular needle. I'm fascinated watching the Germans (possibly other europeans aswell) the way they knit. Its a bit like half knitting and half crochet.

    I know what you mean about once you've finished it the problem comes if it doesn't fit.

    I'm trying to get my head round a crochet pattern just now, its been a long time since I've made anything following a pattern. I think I will need a few trials first.

    MillieH, I think the advert I saw for embroidery was when we were away a few weeks ago, the only magazine OH can remember us having in the van was the supplement out of the weekend paper, sorry. Will keep my eyes open incase I see anything that you might like.

    Write your comments here...

    Thanks Tammy.  I am trawling the internet and will have a look in Hobbycraft.  This is, of course, a project for next Christmas.Wink  I would never get anything done in time for this year - 4 weeks today. My Mum taught me to embroider when I was off school ill for 3 - 4 weeks and I kept it up until I realised that I wasn't using the tablecloths, tray cloth etc that I was embroidering.  I just fancied something to do while watching TV in the evening.  I am afraid my knitting skills aren't that brilliant. My children begged me not to knit them anymore school jumpers.Surprised

  • JayEss
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    edited November 2016 #5759

    M56 is a better route to Chester but avoid rush hour as there seems to be a serious accident every day at the moment 

  • golly79
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    Today after three weeks of shift work I am doing an hour at work before going shopping then me and my wife are off to Devon for 4 nights away , much needed time away it is too , oh hello by the way it's been a long time since my last visit to this pGe ,
    I trust you have all been  

  • Oneputt
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    edited November 2016 #5761

    Yell