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  • KjellNN
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    edited July 2016 #62

    Metered Charges 2016 - 2017

    One of our key aims is to make charges reflect, as closely as possible, the cost of the services we provide. As a metered customer you will be billed directly for all water and waste water services by Scottish Water. When we send your bill it may consist
    of the following elements, depending on which Scottish Water services you have:

    • Annual Fixed Charges
    • Volumetric Charges
    • Property and Roads Drainage Charges

    The average metered household customer will typically have a 15mm or 20mm water meter installed.




    If your home has a water meter the metered charges from 1 April 2016 until 31 March 2017 are:

    Annual Fixed Charges

    The annual fixed charge is based on the size of the meter serving your house or property.



    Volumetric Charges

    These water and waste water charges are each based on the size of your meter and the volume of water recorded on the meter serving your property.



    Property and Roads Drainage Charges

    These charges are based on the Council Tax Band for your home/property.



    If rainwater drains to the public sewer from your property, then Property Drainage Charges will apply. Where Scottish Water deals with no Property Drainage from any part of the property, no Property Drainage Charges will be applied.



    If your property has either a connection for waste water or for Property Drainage you will also need to pay a charge for Roads Drainage.


  • Rocky 2 buckets
    Rocky 2 buckets Forum Participant Posts: 7,101
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    edited July 2016 #63

    They all charge differently down here KJ. They have to petition the Govt to increase prices. There is no competition unlike B/band & Energy. I send them my readings via Email. I can request a visit for a reading if required or they can request entry to my
    home to check things. It works wellHappy

  • KjellNN
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    edited July 2016 #64

    Sorry, the tables of the actual charges did not come with the text above!

    I listed the ones that would apply to us earlier on.  The fact that the fixed charges are very high and related to your CT band means that 2 people in a larger house would most likely be no better off on a meter it seems.

    I don't see how they can claim that their charges are related to the actual costs when they base a huge chunk of them on the CT band.

     

  • JVB66
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    edited July 2016 #65

     Our water Meter in Hertfordshire,3 bed semi det

    our latest bill Jan -Jun this year 6 months

    water used 13 cubic metres

    standing charge £14.04

    clean water      £13.45

    sewerage standing charge £35.06

    usage             £10.45

    our wter company is uk owned? Affinity water

    we pay our sewerage to Thames water           

  • cyberyacht
    cyberyacht Forum Participant Posts: 10,218
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    edited July 2016 #66

    We average around 75 cu mtrs pa. which equates to about £320 annually. Pricey for stuff that falls out of the sky.

  • Snowy1
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    edited July 2016 #67

    We average around 75 cu mtrs pa. which equates to about £320 annually. Pricey for stuff that falls out of the sky.

    Simular to my Wife and I Sir, we average 73 cubic metres per year i.e. 100L (22 gal) per person per day.

  • young thomas
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    edited July 2016 #68

    i did say id get round to posting our figure for comparison...

    2010 March 54 cu ft, Sept 28, total 82

    2011.............36...................28.........65

    2012.............44...................69.........113

    2013..............42...................21..........63

    2014..............38...................28...........66

    2015..............17....................18..........35

    2016..............33...

    so, 65 looks to be a reasonable average figure..

    the sept 2012 figure was up as son decided to be 'between properties' and used our water....Undecided

    2015 low due to more time away in the van...Happy

  • Natasha2
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    edited July 2016 #69

    Many thanks to those posters who gave details of water used in cubic meters.  It does seem that we are using more water than other 2 person households, not that I feel we are wasteful  in any way.

    We are going to do an exact check on the water used over the next month and take it from there.  Perhaps we will consider having the meter checked at some point. 

    Thanks again folks. 

     

  • young thomas
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    edited July 2016 #70

    Natasha, we dont 'bathe' these days, use our walk in shower instead and prefer that....so a real saving there.

    OTOH, one of the biggest users of water, for those that are (say) retired and spending time at home, is repeated toilet flushing.

    we are both retired but (generally) don't spend too much time at home and when we are away more it is definitely reflected in the water usage pattern...

  • Natasha2
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    edited July 2016 #71

    Natasha, we dont 'bathe' these days, use our walk in shower instead and prefer that....so a real saving there.

     

    Ha neither do we Bolero boy, in fact haven't even tested our new double ended bath

  • JVB66
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    edited July 2016 #72

    That is true as has been stated, and  walk in showers are becoming the to have thing ,as the population gets olderWink 

  • SteveL
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    edited July 2016 #73

    We have not had a bath for 14 years

    However, I did replace it with a large shower.

  • EasyT
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    edited July 2016 #74

    We have not had a bath for 14 years

    However, I did replace it with a large shower.

    I have probably had 8 baths in the last 4 years taken when meeting up with friends for a hotel weekend. I too replaced the bath with a large walk in shower. I prefer a bath but OH has a problem raising one of her legs to get in or out. Se is able to walk
    fine however she just has trouble getting her leg over. Winking

  • Rubytuesday
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    edited July 2016 #75

    We have not had a bath for 14 years

    However, I did replace it with a large shower.

    I have probably had 8 baths in the last 4 years taken when meeting up with friends for a hotel weekend. I too replaced the bath with a large walk in shower. I prefer a bath but OH has a problem raising one of her legs to get in or out. Se is able to walk
    fine however she just has trouble getting her leg over. Winking

    Write your comments here...what on earth are you implying EmbarassedeasyT Laughing innuendo
    I presume Wink 

  • Natasha2
    Natasha2 Forum Participant Posts: 306
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    edited July 2016 #76



    I have probably had 8 baths in the last 4 years taken when meeting up with friends for a hotel weekend. I too replaced the bath with a large walk in shower. I prefer a bath but OH has a problem raising one of her legs to get in or out. Se is able to walk
    fine however she just has trouble getting her leg over. 
    Winking



    I thought I was on the wrong forum for a minute.

  • young thomas
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    edited July 2016 #77

    We have not had a bath for 14 years

    However, I did replace it with a large shower.

    when the kids were small we knocked the fourth bedroom and a small bathroom together into a huge bathroom....big corner bath etc, etc,.....which they loved....

    as time went on, we used the bath less and less, and when they had both gone we changed the layout back and in the bath room we did as Steve has done and left out the bath altogether and put in a nice large walk in shower which, even the kids now think, is far better....

    we dont miss the bath and even had an estate agent round to check on any difference in value to the property....

    none....4 bed better than 3, and a bath could easily be put back in should any new owner decide thats what they preferred...

  • KjellNN
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    edited July 2016 #78

    I think we should put in a walk-in shower soon, we have baths with showers over.

    Bathrooms are still as originally installed when we had the house built 28+ years back.  Still in good order but no longer fashionable.  Main drawback however is the mess and dust that will go with any replacement as all the walls are tiled.

    OH has been looking at the "showerwall" stuff, which could just be fixed over the tiles.  Anyone got any experience of that in use?

  • young thomas
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    edited July 2016 #79

    Kjell, we used it as part of our changes....really good stuff, put in by SIL who's a plasterer.....lovely, easyclean finish in loads of styles....not cheap i seem to recallSad

    ....ps....i cant re,ember if we knocked the tiles off first..... 

  • DEBSC
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    edited July 2016 #80

    I think we should put in a walk-in shower soon, we have baths with showers over.

    Bathrooms are still as originally installed when we had the house built 28+ years back.  Still in good order but no longer fashionable.  Main drawback however is the mess and dust that will go with any replacement as all the walls are tiled.

    OH has been looking at the "showerwall" stuff, which could just be fixed over the tiles.  Anyone got any experience of that in use?

    A couple of years ago we had an extension built. We have had a ensuite put on the new bedroom with the 'showerwall stuff' it's great so far, no grouting in between tiles to discolour. Then the plumber said, rather than take all the tiles off the bathroom
    wall, which we were changing as well, why don't you just have the showerwall put over the top. We had this done as well and it is also fine, even better hardly any mess. Otherwise they would have had to take the tiles off, replaster the wall then put new tiles
    up. Would recommend it.

  • Goldie146
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    edited July 2016 #81

    Our water supply is metered as a business. Cows drink a lot of water, so any saving I could make in the house have no real affect. 

    We have a vary large bathroom, with an old roll top iron bath that I can lie flat out in. We also have a shower, but have to put up with the fact that it's at the end of the line, and if in winter a lot of cows are drinking (when they  inside ), or the parlour
    is washing out, then the pressure can be poor. Timing of showers is important.

    To relax nothing beats a long soak in the bath. Music playing, glass in hand. And maybe sun pouring through the window.

  • DEBSC
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    edited July 2016 #82

    Couldn't be without a bath. But I do get that climbing in the bath for an over bath shower has its problems as we grow older, not least the slipping problem. To fit both the walk in shower and the bath into a bathroom it's worth considering the small baths
    that are available now, also you use less water, you just can't stretch out. The salesperson recommended a steel bath to us, cheaper, fitted with handles and it holds the heat for longer, good suggestion.

  • KjellNN
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    edited July 2016 #83

    Thanks BB and DEBSC, that sounds good.

    Yes, it is expensive,  we have just had it installed in the toilet area at the local guide hall, but easy to clean as you say.

    Our en-suite is quite large, so we could easily fit a large shower instead of the large bath, with enough space to put the shower-wall over the tiles.  The main bathroom we would leave with a shower over the bath.

    We also have a bathroom upstairs  in the former "granny flat", but it is possibly not big enough to fit in the shower we want if we left the tiles in place, every mm will count in that bathroom!

    ( We have an "upside-down" house, with the living area upstairs and the bedrooms/bathrooms etc downstairs. )

  • RichardPitman
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    edited July 2016 #84

    We only have the one bathroom, so obviously it couldn't be out of service for too long. Van lives at a storage site, so not possible to make do with that.

    I took out the bath tub, and fitted a 'Kubex' one piece shower cubicle in its place. Specially sized to pass through a domestic doorway, although it took three of us to carry it up the stairs, and I had to take off a couple of doors along the route.

    I got it up and running inside one day, but I had done the preparatory plumbing and electrical work in advance. Plenty of large bore stop valves and an RCD, just in case.

    Cost around £1k, plus sundries. I don't how much some of the companies in the Sunday glossies charge for a similar installation.

    And to avoid retiling the rest of the bathroom I used UVPC cladding from Wickes, which actually looks quite smart. Probably not suitable for use inside the shower area though.

  • RichardPitman
    RichardPitman Forum Participant Posts: 127
    edited July 2016 #85

    And returning to water meters. The leak that I mentioned in an earlier post was fixed on Friday, they dug up the road and replaced someones stop cock. Then went home at 2:30, leaving the hole open, surrounded by barriers, blocking half a dozen kerb side
    parking spots, chaos this weekend.

    I've just been on the phone asking them when it would be made good. Reasonable reply was that they leave it for a few days, to see if the repair has worked. Obviously confident in their workmanship. Told to phone back in a day or so if nothing had happened.

    30 minutes later, a truck arrived, and they are now filling in hole. Coincidence, or the power of Victor Meldrew ?

    Just as long as I don't end up like the bloke on the Bernard Cribbins song ...