electronic cigarettes
Anybody else noticed how much smoke electronic cigarettes make? I was watching somebody smoking one and he almost disappeared into the cloud of smoke , it was so huge and dense. I can't believe that this is not a health problem in the making.
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It is vapour. From what I've read-water & vegetable glycerine with the addition of-cherry/blueberry etc choices for the individual. The NHS has approved them for 'smoking cessation' clinics. I have family members who use them, the 'smells' they give off
are the fruit of my family members choice. I have no problem with them in my home, I used to send them into the garden to smoke a cigarette. I'm happy they're off tobacco
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For the ex smokers the level of nicotine can be reduced to 0% over time, they're a valuable tool. The large clouds produced are not from the cigarette shaped ecigarettes, they're from big powerful electronic boxes that create lots of vapour. It takes all sorts
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I can only give you what I know & actually see DD. There is no tobacco, there is no need to ignite with a lighter/match, there is no foul cigarette smell, there are no coughs. If you think differently so be it. For health reasons for my family I am a big
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DD, why do you doubt? It's vapour for sure - smoke would defeat the object.
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Until three and a half years ago, I had been a smoker from the age of about 15 - for most of that time smoking a pipe or cigars. In later life, becoming well aware of the health risks, I had tried every conceivable way to stop smoking - and failed abysmally every time. Then I discovered eCigs and haven't smoked since. Yes, I admit that I am still addicted to nicotine and am probably just as dependent on eCigs as I was tobacco - but I'm confident that I'm not damaging my health further in the way that I was. I for one, am extremely grateful that they came along.
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We both gave up smoking when the boys came along nearly 40 years ago now. It wasn't easy for OH as he was on 60 a day at that time, I had only ever been a 'social' smoker (nothing social about it) Both of the boys married girls that smoke
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of the boys ended up taking up smoking, why I will never know. The eldest is in the army and is/was very fit, he has been vaping for a few years now and says he feels much fitter for it, although he says it doesn't suppress your appetite like ciggies do. The
youngest son wasn't really into ciggies like his wife is and soon stopped smoking when he noticed his fitness levels drop, he does a lot of martial arts and he was out getting of breath. He didn't turn to vaping just stopped smoking.The thing that gets my goat is that both of the girls stopped smoking the minute they found out they were pregnant and then as soon as the babies were born the started again, and still smoke today
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That's easier said than done for many, Ian. Anything that helps people give up must surely be good.
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Ecigs don't smell, they don't contaminate clothing, they don't promote 2nd hand smoking as there is no tobacco. To treat them the way traditional cigarettes are treated is a backward step. Any help a smoker can get to put tobacco addiction behind them should
be welcomed by any caring individual. It must be good for the individual & the country as a whole. It is more socially acceptable to cape than smoke.0 -
Don't know a great deal about them , but when I asked was told no tabacco but you can control the tar when you start off most have high tar and reduce it slowly , surely TAR is bad for your chest
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E-cigs are nearly as revolting to a non smoker as ordinary fags. Can't stand them - anywhere!
Well, not quite so revolting! ... just absurdly comical. However they are equally banned in our house. At least the person who has been smoking them doesn't stink the place out the second they come back indoors.
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Cigarettes were also reckoned to be perfectly safe at one time (they were even said to be good for your health at one time!). We now know that they cause hugely debilitating illnesses and then death.
Who really knows what will be uncovered about e-cigs in years to come? Many of the chemical additives are imported and contain who knows what?
One thing is for certain......they are highly unlikely to be good for anyone's health.
I know (from experience) that it's not easy to stop smoking. But if some people are unwilling or unable to stop, they shouldn't be allowed to inflict their fumes on others.
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The only possible justification for these things is to wean tobacco addicts on to something safer.
I worry that way the things are advertised actually glamourises them, and encourages young non smokers to use them, and possibly from them to cigarettes.
It should not be legal to use them in enclosed public spaces. I am glad that Wetherspoons does not allow them in their pubs.
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"I know (from experience) that it's not easy to stop smoking. But if some people are unwilling or unable to stop, they shouldn't be allowed to inflict their fumes on others."
I've never found the vapour objectionable, Ian, and certainly better than the exhaust fumes we inhale every day. I like to think, in any case, that if I can help the person trying to give up smoking by tolerating the vapour - and it's no big deal for me - then that's fine.
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"I know (from experience) that it's not easy to stop smoking. But if some people are unwilling or unable to stop, they shouldn't be allowed to inflict their fumes on others."
I've never found the vapour objectionable, Ian, and certainly better than the exhaust fumes we inhale every day. I like to think, in any case, that if I can help the person trying to give up smoking by tolerating the vapour - and it's no big deal for me - then that's fine.
I quite agree, I would hope mind that they don't do it in front of youngsters or across the restaurant.
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Each to his own but I have no problem with them.
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All places that smoking isn't allowed that I know of the E cigs are banned to local pubs resturants ect , but was shock when we went to a funeral and the wake was at the local club, massive outside under cover smoking area ,which looked full and inside in the hall nearly everyone was puffing on those ecigs .....
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I agree that the fumes may sometimes have a more pleasant odour, but none of us know what's in the chemical fumes (because they aren't regulated or controlled) so I'd rather not breath them in, thank you.
Not quite true, Ian. Since 20 May 2016, all such products have been subject to the EU Tobacco Products Directive (2) and although it's still work in progress, all manufacturers producing these products have to comply. Personally, I only use a product containing
pharmaceutical grade nicotine from a reputable supplier. Also, contrary to what someone else has indicated on here, there is no tar whatsoever in these products - that's the whole point - you're avoiding the nasty things found in tobacco. Since the Royal
College of Surgeons have now endorsed eCigs as a means of reducing the number of deaths and disease caused by conventional smoking, I continue to see these devices as a positive step forward, ultimately reducing the pressure on an already over-burdened NHS.
It's very easy for a non-smoker to simply say "stop smoking". Yes. I wish I'd never started, but at least eCigs have succeeded for me where other attempts have failed.0 -
I was driving behind a car, and could guess correctly that the driver was smoking an e-cig; the amount of smoke/vapor that came out of the window was amazing. Though if the window was closed, how much would they be able to see out of the window if the car
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I agree that the fumes may sometimes have a more pleasant odour, but none of us know what's in the chemical fumes (because they aren't regulated or controlled) so I'd rather not breath them in, thank you.
Not quite true, Ian. Since 20 May 2016, all such products have been subject to the EU Tobacco Products Directive (2) and although it's still work in progress, all manufacturers producing these products have to comply. Personally, I only use a product containing
pharmaceutical grade nicotine from a reputable supplier. Also, contrary to what someone else has indicated on here, there is no tar whatsoever in these products - that's the whole point - you're avoiding the nasty things found in tobacco. Since the Royal
College of Surgeons have now endorsed eCigs as a means of reducing the number of deaths and disease caused by conventional smoking, I continue to see these devices as a positive step forward, ultimately reducing the pressure on an already over-burdened NHS.
It's very easy for a non-smoker to simply say "stop smoking". Yes. I wish I'd never started, but at least eCigs have succeeded for me where other attempts have failed.Write your comments here...sorry yes my mistake I honestly meant nicotine not tar , which I thought was bad for you as well and they can control the strength so most go on high Strength anyway
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I was driving behind a car, and could guess correctly that the driver was smoking an e-cig; the amount of smoke/vapor that came out of the window was amazing. Though if the window was closed, how much would they be able to see out of the window if the car is like a winter's day with what looks like smog
Write your comments here...personally I wouldn't want to be in a car with windows closed while someone was puffing on one of them , especially those big lump of square metal one's they send it out like the flying Scotsman
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.I though it looked rather amuseing 
