Arrival & Departure Times
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Or, of course, the club could adopt an open arrival/departure system at reasonable times (say from 10 am to 8 pm), especially where sites have no access problems!
That's fine if the site isn't full but if it is it just won't work.
True, but I've never yet been on a CC site where at least half a dozen units haven't set off by 9 in the morning, Sundays included and I doubt if you'd have masses turning up at 10 the way they do now at 12.
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Or, of course, the club could adopt an open arrival/departure system at reasonable times (say from 10 am to 8 pm), especially where sites have no access problems!
That's fine if the site isn't full but if it is it just won't work.
True, but I've never yet been on a CC site where at least half a dozen units haven't set off by 9 in the morning, Sundays included and I doubt if you'd have masses turning up at 10 the way they do now at 12.
...Very true and as happens now,it would be subject to a pitch being available and have to accept acess may not be available until 12/1300 depending on staff workload
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Hello everyone,
Thank you for all your suggestions regarding arrival and departure times on our UK Club sites.
The Club does appreciate that it is not always possible for members to arrive at the desired arrival time, due to a long journey or not knowing the site's area very well.
huskydog, I am impressed that people queue, waiting for your shop to open. You must be very proud of that.
If there are any circumstances where people would need to arrive or depart outside the usual times, that would be down the warden's discretion.
I am sure you will agree that they do an outstanding job and only they will know how busy the site will be at certain times and therefore, be aware of the amount of possible disruption .
artel, you are correct regarding Rookesbury Park. If visitors to that site are due to catch a ferry, they should be booking a "ferry pitch". These are situated near the exit so as to keep disruption to others to a minimum.
Black Horse Farm in Folkestone is also run in this way so that members who are coming off or getting on the ferry book a "ferry pitch", in order to ease disruption to others.
markfhwest, yes I agree with your point. As The Caravan Club does not own the approach roads, it is not always possible to provide passing places.
I am sure this discussion, as previous similar ones, will run and run. Unfortunately, it is not possible to please everyone as everyone's needs are different.
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At some sites the single track is public highway so this is never going to happen. Daleacres in Kent is a good example - we left there recently and met another van coming the other way at 10.30am - not best pleased to say the
least. Just needs people to stick to the rules. And vis the weekend issue why not have a leave before say 4.00pm and
arrive after 5.00pm just for Sundays ? So long as you know the times and people stick to them it should work fine.As we tend to travel on a Sunday, I certainly would not vote for that. Particularly in the winter months it would mean arriving and setting up in the dark.
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At some sites the single track is public highway so this is never going to happen. Daleacres in Kent is a good example - we left there recently and met another van coming the other way at 10.30am - not best pleased to say the
least. Just needs people to stick to the rules. And vis the weekend issue why not have a leave before say 4.00pm and
arrive after 5.00pm just for Sundays ? So long as you know the times and people stick to them it should work fine.As we tend to travel on a Sunday, I certainly would not vote for that. Particularly in the winter months it would mean arriving and setting up in the dark.
With a Motorhome it's not a problem
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Sunday is one of (if not the) most popular arrival day, so people really need to be away at 12 to give a good choice of pitch to those starting their holiday.
Only fair, really.
You can of course pay for the extra day in order to stay later - your choice if that suits your particular circumstances.
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Moulesy , nice idea but wouldn't work.The wardens would have to hope and pray that for X number of units arriving that day , the same amount have left before last one arrives, or the sums don't add up.
...It would be an extremely rare occasion that all the days arrivals came before the official 1200/1300 are time ,and the situation already happens as Nicky has just posted ,and as said it would entirely depend on availability of pitches ,if space is available
and in the main holiday periods when families are out Saturdays are the main change over as shown by that being the "Full" day at w/ends whereas Sundays normally has the most available pitches,so it seems as moulsly asks it happens already0 -
"If visitors to that site are due to catch a ferry, they should be booking a "ferry pitch". These are situated near the exit so as to
keep disruption to others to a minimum."How disruptive is a caravan leaving a site for goodness sake? We're talking caravans here, not a low-loader with heavy industrial plant.
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"If visitors to that site are due to catch a ferry, they should be booking a "ferry pitch". These are situated near the exit so as to
keep disruption to others to a minimum."How disruptive is a caravan leaving a site for goodness sake? We're talking caravans here, not a low-loader with heavy industrial plan
...It depends how may doors to close there are on some cars
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"If visitors to that site are due to catch a ferry, they should be booking a "ferry pitch". These are situated near the exit so as to
keep disruption to others to a minimum."How disruptive is a caravan leaving a site for goodness sake? We're talking caravans here, not a low-loader with heavy industrial plant.
Never stayed there myself, but I imagine it's more to do with very early departures more than logistical disruption isn't it?
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"If visitors to that site are due to catch a ferry, they should be booking a "ferry pitch". These are situated near the exit so as to
keep disruption to others to a minimum."How disruptive is a caravan leaving a site for goodness sake? We're talking caravans here, not a low-loader with heavy industrial plant.
Also what are you supposed to do if you go to BHF for a few days, prior to catching a ferry. Move for your last night?
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"If visitors to that site are due to catch a ferry, they should be booking a "ferry pitch". These are situated near the exit so as to
keep disruption to others to a minimum."How disruptive is a caravan leaving a site for goodness sake? We're talking caravans here, not a low-loader with heavy industrial plant.
Write your comments here...Its not the moving of hte van but the getting up, making beds, open/closing the caravan door, going/coming from toilet block, starting car engine, hithcing up, unplugging EHU, putting cable away etc. etc.
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"If visitors to that site are due to catch a ferry, they should be booking a "ferry pitch". These are situated near the exit so as to
keep disruption to others to a minimum."How disruptive is a caravan leaving a site for goodness sake? We're talking caravans here, not a low-loader with heavy industrial plant.
Also what are you supposed to do if you go to BHF for a few days, prior to catching a ferry. Move for your last night?
Yes
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Some years ago when Folkstone Race Course was a cc site the wardens would line up some times as many as 50 vans in rows of times of departure from about 0300 for the ferries or tunnel, and the same a amount would be on as they called it"the mushroom field" in the morning from off the overnight ferries and trains
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"If visitors to that site are due to catch a ferry, they should be booking a "ferry pitch". These are situated near the exit so as to
keep disruption to others to a minimum."How disruptive is a caravan leaving a site for goodness sake? We're talking caravans here, not a low-loader with heavy industrial plant.
Also what are you supposed to do if you go to BHF for a few days, prior to catching a ferry. Move for your last night?
Yes
Never going to happen.
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You join a club - golf, tennis, whatever - the club has rules; in joining you agree to abide by the rules. You find after a time you don't like some of the rules, ok, Leave then!!
Try plaing a round on your newly joined golf club using a cricket ball as it suits you because it is easier to hit and you'll find the Secretary waiting for you after your round with a cheque for the return of your joining fee already made out.
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I know this cannot be done as it would be too risky with the Club's already inadequate booking system but . . . .
When one goes to book on a site one is offered the choice of booking for a noon arrival, a 3pm arrival or a 6pm arrival. One is also required to state whether departing before noon, before 3pm or before 6pm on the last day.
This would spread the arrivals and departures and everyone would be happy again. (well almost!).
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"If visitors to that site are due to catch a ferry, they should be booking a "ferry pitch". These are situated near the exit so as to
keep disruption to others to a minimum."How disruptive is a caravan leaving a site for goodness sake? We're talking caravans here, not a low-loader with heavy industrial plant.
Write your comments here...Its not the moving of hte van but the getting up, making beds, open/closing the caravan door, going/coming from toilet block, starting car engine, hithcing up, unplugging EHU, putting cable away etc. etc.
and the running & revving of the car's/Motorhome's engine for ages before setting off.
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Sunday is one of (if not the) most popular arrival day, so people really need to be away at 12 to give a good choice of pitch to those starting their holiday. ....
Can you be certain of that?
Of course, what you really mean is that you think you should have the choice of ALL available pitches ....
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Sunday is one of (if not the) most popular arrival day, so people really need to be away at 12 to give a good choice of pitch to those starting their holiday. ....
Can you be certain of that?
Of course, what you really mean is that you think you should have the choice of ALL available pitches ....
Write your comments here... It depends a bit on the site but generally the busiest days for arrivals has to be Friday with weekenderx and Saturday for longer stays. You see queues on those days but very few on a Sunday.
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Sunday is one of (if not the) most popular arrival day, so people really need to be away at 12 to give a good choice of pitch to those starting their holiday. ....
Can you be certain of that?
Of course, what you really mean is that you think you should have the choice of ALL available pitches ....
Write your comments here... It depends a bit on the site but generally the busiest days for arrivals has to be Friday with weekenderx and Saturday for longer stays. You see queues on those days but very few on a Sunday.
That's what thought too
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Write your comments here...Its not the moving of hte van but the getting up, making beds, open/closing the caravan door, going/coming from toilet block, starting car engine, hithcing up, unplugging EHU, putting cable away etc. etc.
If very early in the morning, doors, once opened, can be left open until departure. Engines only need starting for the final hook-up and drive-off. The rest has no impact on others. Only the lightest of sleepers would even be aware.
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Write your comments here...Its not the moving of hte van but the getting up, making beds, open/closing the caravan door, going/coming from toilet block, starting car engine, hithcing up, unplugging EHU, putting cable away etc. etc.
If very early in the morning, doors, once opened, can be left open until departure. Engines only need starting for the final hook-up and drive-off. The rest has no impact on others. Only the lightest of sleepers would even be aware.
Agree totally Cyber. The more so, because most leaving very early will deal with the water and waste the evening before, so there is only the electric to sort out. Hardly a noisy task. Also we are talking caravans here not tents, they do afford some sound
protection. It is like everything you do on a campsite, consideration of its impact on others.0 -
Sunday is one of (if not the) most popular arrival day, so people really need to be away at 12 to give a good choice of pitch to those starting their holiday. ....
Can you be certain of that?
Of course, what you really mean is that you think you should have the choice of ALL available pitches ....
Write your comments here... It depends a bit on the site but generally the busiest days for arrivals has to be Friday with weekenderx and Saturday for longer stays. You see queues on those days but very few on a Sunday.
and the number of arrivals is irrelevant in the use of warden's dicretion in allowing you to stay past 12. If there are 30 arrivals and 40 empty pitches for you, what is the problem?
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Write your comments here...Its not the moving of hte van but the getting up, making beds, open/closing the caravan door, going/coming from toilet block, starting car engine, hithcing up, unplugging EHU, putting cable away etc. etc.
If very early in the morning, doors, once opened, can be left open until departure. Engines only need starting for the final hook-up and drive-off. The rest has no impact on others. Only the lightest of sleepers would even be aware.
Write your comments here...perhaps CC can introduce a new rule to this effect... But making of beds, etc. does make a lot of banging noises for slats to be pushed back and most people will not leave their caravan wide open and go tothe toilet will they?
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This thread is becoming almost a re-run of the ridiculous Sunday Departures thread. The CC has rules - if somebody doesnt like those rules, go elsewhere.
The rules, unless stated differently in the handbook, are :- No Arrivals before 12.00 noon and all Departures before 12.00 noon.
It's straightforward, It's easily understood.
Wardens can, under certain circumstances, ignore those rules but it's their decision only.( It's called warden's discretion, )
There's no point in the usual people again trying to get the CC to change the rules to suit themselves and inconvenience others by complaining on here -- As I've always said, if you want to ask for a rule change write directly to the CC head office.
K
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I don't know which version some posters are using for their 'rules' but the official true version is
15 Leaving your pitch
a. Pitches should normally be vacated by 12:00 noon.
b. If you'd like to remain later on site, not necessarily on your pitch, have a word with the Site Staff. Be aware that charges may apply if you stay beyond 4pm
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The rules, unless stated differently in the handbook, are :- No Arrivals before 12.00 noon and all Departures before 12.00 noon.
It's straightforward, It's easily understood.
Just unfortunate it is only published every two years, so now in some cases wrong.
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