Energy Bills...that time again

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  • IanH
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    edited November 2016 #62

    You could do it on a sheet of paper with a calculator in about 10 minutes......pretty good pay, a hundred or more pounds for 10 minutes......

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited November 2016 #63

    I bailed at the word-spreadsheetEmbarassed

  • huskydog
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    edited November 2016 #64

    I'm going to sit down and do a spreadsheet Undecided, no I'm not ,I'm going to have a glass of cider and enjoy the eveningLaughing

  • IanH
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    edited November 2016 #65

    It does surprise me that some people will spend time tramping around a supermarket to save 5p on a tin of beans, but won't spend a similar amount of time to save hundreds of pounds on their energy bills, insurances etc.

    Ah well, each to their own, I suppose......

  • neveramsure
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    edited November 2016 #66

    Yesterday I received a reminder from E E that my contract was about to expire.

    The main point that we all need to remember is not to ignore it but to change to the cheapest tariff even if you don’t change suppliers. There is always a tariff available, cheaper than the standard one that starts when your old one expires. A couple of minutes online or negotiate by phone can save £££s over the year.Smile  

  • huskydog
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    edited November 2016 #67

    It does surprise me that some people will spend time tramping around a supermarket to save 5p on a tin of beans, but won't spend a similar amount of time to save hundreds of pounds on their energy bills, insurances etc.

    Ah well, each to their own, I suppose......

    I think the last time I checked ,it was 20p a tin I savedWink

  • IanH
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    edited November 2016 #68

    Hey, where's that? 

    I need to tell Mrs H......

  • Vicmallows
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    edited November 2016 #69

    The most difficult part is finding the tariffs. The companies have a habit of making these difficult to find on their web sites.

    peedee

    Write your comments here...

  • IanH
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    edited November 2016 #70

    Indeed, Vic Smile

    I would add that, if a company tries to hide away its prices, they are probably expensive, so look elsewhere.

    There are plenty to chose from....

  • Vicmallows
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    edited November 2016 #71

    The most difficult part is finding the tariffs. The companies have a habit of making these difficult to find on their web sites.

    peedee

    Precisely.  All I want to know is the price per kWh and the standing charge for each tariff (along with any benefits/restrictions).

    It always seems to be assumed that the 'great British public' have zero skills when it comes to elementary mathematics. Maybe this is true?

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    Anyway, ..... anyone else on British Gas's 'free electricity on Saturday (or Sunday)' tariff?  What are your thoughts?

     

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited November 2016 #72

    Hey, where's that? 

    I need to tell Mrs H......

    Must be Lidl. or Aldi....but no good for you Ian as you already shop there, don't you?

  • redface
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    edited November 2016 #73

    If you were to go on the co-op site you cannot find the pence per KWH charges, nor the daily metering cost. You have to ask them to send it to you!

  • IanH
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    edited November 2016 #74

    If you were to go on the co-op site you cannot find the pence per KWH charges, nor the daily metering cost. You have to ask them to send it to you!

    Yes you can -
    here
    it is.

    You simply have to say where you live against your preferred tarrif type and then a table of their charges appears - the cost per kWh and the standing charge per day.

  • peedee
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    edited November 2016 #75

    Did anyone else watch Martin Lewis's program about energy switching? He was right about the urgency of switching to a fixed deal because of rapidly rising prices. 10 days or so ago as posted on here I was considering switching to Avro which would have reduced my energy bills by £250p.a When I rechecked yesterday morning the tariffs for the identical service had risen and savings dropped to £200. I switched.

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  • dmiller555
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    edited November 2016 #76

    I use an on-line app called Voltz which checks and lets me know if there is better deal available than the one I'm on. Currently I'm with the Co-op. Switching around has reduced our energy bill by 50% over the last few years so worth the effort. 

  • SueandKeith
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    We stayed with British Gas for years, using a dual fuel account, providing them with monthly readings and paying monthly by variable Direct Debit.  We had looked at switching a couple of times but dismissed it as too much effort.

    About 9 montrhs ago we were advised by the Martin Lewis email that we should join their club and switch - to British Gas!!  For a few seconds we were relieved that we must already be on the cheapest tariff, but when we dug deeper we realised that the offer was for a fixed one year term at 8% less than we were paying. 

    It took just a couple of clicks to request BG to change our account and a couple of weeks for them to re-set the account to exactly the same as before but with a great saving.  Martin's group shared the switch fee with us so we got a £50 cash-back.

    Last month, they suggested switching again - again to British Gas on a slightly higher tariff but fixed for a further year.  With the likelihood of price rises over the next few months this also seemed a good idea.  This morning we have recieved yet another cash back payment for switching once again to British Gas.

     It's a mad world!!

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited November 2016 #78

    S&K, it's nice that it's 'mad' in your favourHappy

  • SteveL
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    edited November 2016 #79

    The most difficult part is finding the tariffs. The companies have a habit of making these difficult to find on their web sites.

    peedee

    Precisely.  All I want to know is the price per kWh and the standing charge for each tariff (along with any benefits/restrictions).

    It always seems to be assumed that the 'great British public' have zero skills when it comes to elementary mathematics. Maybe this is true?

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    Anyway, ..... anyone else on British Gas's 'free electricity on Saturday (or Sunday)' tariff?  What are your thoughts?

     

    We once got an offer to save us 50% on our gas bill if we combined gas & electric. Told them that that was extremely clever as we don't even have mains gas in the house!

  • Tammygirl
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    edited November 2016 #80

    We don't have mains gas in the house either so can't get a duel fuel deal. We have done a comparison with other companies through the websites and it would seem we would save 0 if we switched, seems we are on the best rate for us at the moment.

  • IanH
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    edited November 2016 #81

    How much is your electric, per kWh, TG?

  • Tammygirl
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    edited November 2016 #82

    How much is your electric, per kWh, TG?

    16.46p no standing charge, in the last 12mths we have used 1.128kWh I might be wrong but if you don't use a lot of electric you don't have much in the way of bartering for a better rate. We pay by variable DD every 3 months, which suits us as we only have
    to provide a reading every 3 months. If we went to monthly DD they would require a reading monthly, one company would save us a few pounds a year if we moved to monthly. 

  • Tammygirl
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    edited November 2016 #83

    IanH we average around 11kWh a day I think. We don't have a smart meter but I do check it from time to time over a 24hr hour period.

  • KjellNN
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    edited November 2016 #84

    Something wrong there TG, if you have used only 1128kwh in 12 months.  That is only an average of 3-4 kwh per day.

  • Tammygirl
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    edited November 2016 #85

    Something wrong there TG, if you have used only 1128kwh in 12 months.  That is only an average of 3-4 kwh per day.

    I'm not counting the time out of house Kj, when at home we average 11kWh at this time of the year.  During summer it will be hardly any.

  • cyberyacht
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    edited November 2016 #86

    My annual is around 1700Kw. but I have solar panels which significantly reduce it in summer. Winter months is aroud 8Kw pd.

  • IanH
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    edited November 2016 #87

    How much is your electric, per kWh, TG?

    16.46p no standing charge, in the last 12mths we have used 1.128kWh I might be wrong but if you don't use a lot of electric you don't have much in the way of bartering for a better rate. We pay by variable DD every 3 months, which suits us as we only have
    to provide a reading every 3 months. If we went to monthly DD they would require a reading monthly, one company would save us a few pounds a year if we moved to monthly. 

    That's quite a good price, TG.  Very unusual that there is no standing charge.

    We pay about 13.something per kWh for electric, but there is also a standing charge, so similar overall.

    Ours is fixed to September 2018 though, which we like in these times of rising energy prices.

  • peedee
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    edited November 2016 #88

    16.46 per Kw would result in me paying a higher charge than my current Kw rate plus standing charge. My true rate is just under 14p per Kw fixed for a year.

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  • Tammygirl
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    edited November 2016 #89

    16.46 per Kw would result in me paying a higher charge than my current Kw rate plus standing charge. My true rate is just under 14p per Kw fixed for a year.

    peedee

    That's a good rate peedee, we did various comparisons and couldn't get a better rate. I will try again in a week or so might even phone the company and see if I can get it down a bit, but I suspect because we use so little we won't.

    Cyber we have 10 solar panels so our summer usage is very small.

  • Tammygirl
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    edited November 2016 #90

    Hi all, have just got off the phone speaking to our electricity supplier and they have confirmed that we are on the best tariff for our consumption. The one we are on is variable standard, DD payments. This benifits by not having a daily standing charge, because we are away so often they say this works out better, if we went to a fixed rate until the end of 2017 it would cost us £46 more and the 2018 fixed deal would cost us £52 more, because both of these have daily standing charges.

    I've signed up with MSE to be alerted if the tariffs change and doing a comparison on his site it tells me I'm already on the best. So for now at least I can sit back and not worry again until the New Year.Wink

     

  • IanH
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    edited November 2016 #91

    It really irritates me when they talk about the cost per year.......instead of the cost per kWh. 

    Would anyone discuss the cost of petrol per year......or the cost of bread per year??

    All this does is help them to disguise the true price that they charge.