Peak Rates
as anyone else thought that the Carvan club should lead the way in the travel industry and stop hiking up the prices at school holiday times ,just like the rest of the world does ,Ive just been looking at Bridlington site to go on 2nd July its £8.60 adult
rate and £10.50 pitch ,then in school holiday dates its £9.60 and £12.0 picth fee ,the electric doesn't cost the club anymore at this time and looking at the price calendar it only drops to a low rate when the weather on the East coat will be rubbish
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There are a number of threads running on this subject. I think the club does pretty well by families in that it doesn't charge sky high prices in the main school holiday periods. For comparison, take a look at what Haven, Park Leisure etc do with their prices!
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If you compare prices with neighbouring non club sites for a family then the club sites do very well indeed, also some family sites do kids for a £1 which is even better, also there is no price for the family pooch (haven charges £15 per dog per stay) or
awning (again haven are £15 per stay) Add that all up it makes a big difference.Also the club classes children as up to and including 17, where again Haven it is 15.
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There are some lovely CLs around Bridlington, depending upon what sort of facilities you require. Much cheaper than Club Site, and nicer locations. if you have a loo onboard you will be fine. Bit more restricted if you don't, but good luck finding somewhere.
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CC tell us that peak rate charges are the standard fees and reductions are applied at other times. (I know, I know!) Logic dictates that, if peak rates were reduced, charges at other times would need to rise in order to produce the same overall level of
income. Given that other people are saying low season rates are already too expensive compared to commercial sites, it suggests that off peak usage would drop further as more people would veer towards those sites on the grounds of cost. That could result in
CC then having to increase fees at popular times to make up the monetary shortfall and we'd be back where we started. Leave things as they are is my opinion.0 -
its just the rates that are charged at different sites can be a huge difference ,i'm paying 19.10 to go to Brid on the 2nd July but the following weekend going to another site in Yorkshire and paying £30.80 for 2 nights ,I go to Brid as I meet up with my
sister who has a caravan in Hornsea and its her birthday on the 1st July so I may have to start thinking about going to Cls in the area ,I only have my wage coming in and as I'm on min wage some sites may have to be avoided0 -
CLs seem to be a likely way to go, Groovy. We all have to adjust to suit our needs for whatever reason and I'm sure you can see that, although reducing peak rates would suit you, it could disadvantage others, and subsequently CC as a whole, throughout the
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What is likely to happen is that Peak rates will rise sharply next year. Why? Those of us who slavishly used CC sites off peak found out we were paying way over the odds. The Commercials have entered the market and providing excellent deals. ie Haven Tenby
last Saturday were doing Euro Pitches with full facilities at £11 per night ( Up to 6 people). CC St Davids were £18-80 for a wet soggy grass pitch, 2 adults. Many more have entered the market and us CC members are using them hence less income for the club.
Tenby was full, but St Davids only half full. Only one answer in the way the club works and that is jack up prices ( 2016 on average 8% higher than 2015), but dont attract those off season people back.0 -
seems a lot of threads on the go about the prices ,I have found the more popular the site the more they charge ,someone has commented about West Ayton prices ,considering that both these sites are not in the seaside resorts but quite a way out they shouldn't
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GC They don't hike up the price at peak times. Those prices are the correct price for the pitch.
What they do is reduce prices when the sites are virtually empty to encourage a take up of their business by making income from otherwise unused pitches.
As customers of the CC we either pay the going rate or go elsewhere. It's as straightforward as that.
K
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GC They don't hike up the price at peak times. Those prices are the correct price for the pitch.
What they do is reduce prices when the sites are virtually empty to encourage a take up of their business by making income from otherwise unused pitches.
As customers of the CC we either pay the going rate or go elsewhere. It's as straightforward as that.
K
K, I do believe we have agreed.
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But are the prices right? Look at St Davids.onan actual date say 12/5. Non peak.
2015/16 Book Pitch £5-80. Adult £5-10.
Printed 2016 update Pitch £6-30 Adult £5-60
I dont know what the answer is and neither by the sound of it did the lady frm the CC who just phoned. Are the other prices incorrect?
What you are actually charged Pitch £6-80 Adult £6-00
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Fed up about hearing this "price up school hols" well the most popoular months for hols is july aug nothing to do do with schools... this is when most people go away... warmer ect suply and demand and all that I wish CC would increase the price for july
-aug payup or shut up it is not all about schools this is the most popular time, I would increase the cost july aug as it is that popular, sorry get real and smell the coffeee. END
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Hello Fisherman, groovy and others,
Here is the link for the 2016 site prices and opening dates:
http://www.caravanclub.co.uk/media/18915091/2016_site_prices_and_opening_dates.pdf
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Fed up about hearing this "price up school hols" well the most popoular months for hols is july aug nothing to do do with schools... this is when most people go away... warmer ect suply and demand and all that I wish CC would increase the price for july -aug payup or shut up it is not all about schools this is the most popular time, I would increase the cost july aug as it is that popular, sorry get real and smell the coffeee. END
I assume, like us, you're able to pick and choose when you go away? Great isn't it. But spare a thought for those who don't have that luxury!
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Fed up about hearing this "price up school hols" well the most popoular months for hols is july aug nothing to do do with schools... this is when most people go away... warmer ect suply and demand and all that I wish CC would increase the
price for july -aug payup or shut up it is not all about schools this is the most popular time, I would increase the cost july aug as it is that popular, sorry get real and smell the coffeee. ENDI assume, like us, you're able to pick and choose when you go away? Great isn't it. But spare a thought for those who don't have that luxury!
Yes but haven't we all been in the same position when we were working we just got on with it. It is great when we can pick and choose.
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Fed up about hearing this "price up school hols" well the most popoular months for hols is july aug nothing to do do with schools... this is when most people go away... warmer ect suply and demand and all that I wish CC would increase the price for july
-aug payup or shut up it is not all about schools this is the most popular time, I would increase the cost july aug as it is that popular, sorry get real and smell the coffeee. ENDUnfortunately I think you are gradually getting your wish. This year the peak summer season starts a week earlier than last at most sites. I suspect that this trend may well continue in future years.
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Groovy, I agree what you say about the fees, however I suppose it will never change.
As for Brid, there is a great CL just further along Flamboro Road at Danes Dyke. High Breame (£15) a night) with eachpitch fully serviced.
Also next to the CC site there is Ryal CL and just down Jewison Lane there is a small private site The Poplars we used before.
As your sister lives in Hornsey there are several private sites along the coast Barmston Ulrome etc that are more sensitively priced.
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Fed up about hearing this "price up school hols" well the most popoular months for hols is july aug nothing to do do with schools... this is when most people go away... warmer ect suply and demand and all that I wish CC would increase the price for july
-aug payup or shut up it is not all about schools this is the most popular time, I would increase the cost july aug as it is that popular, sorry get real and smell the coffeee. ENDWhat a great argument to encourage families to join the CC.
Maybe its time to lobby parliament and have all school terms brought into line and have the six week break from mid May until the end of June and that way everyone can holiday for less since its outwith the warmer months.....
Obviously the holiday industry won't change their prices since according to you school holidays don't influence the process.
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Tinwheeler's argument on P1 is only correct presuming occupancy remains constant. The whole idea of "off peak" deals is to increase turnover.
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Tinwheeler's argument on P1 is only correct presuming occupancy remains constant. The whole idea of "off peak" deals is to increase turnover.
No argument, CY, and I think you may have missed my point which is that if peak rates are reduced at a time when sites are generally full, income will drop. Therefore, prices will need to increase at other times to make up the shortfall. It will not work
as people will boycott CC at off peak times in favour of cheaper options. Thus, peak rates will need to increase again.0 -
Do they? If turnover at off peak times increases, it will subsidise reductions at peak.
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Do they? If turnover at off peak times increases, it will subsidise reductions at peak.
I'm not so sure CY, unless there is a huge increase in off peak uptake. If the club halved off peak rates, they'd need to double uptake just to break even. Given that the club is never going to be in a position to match the £8 or so offers folk keep mentioning I just can't see that happening and if the alternatives are so much more appealing which we keep reading I'm not sure any offer would tempt some folk back to CC sites.
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The club cannot break the mould and reduce prices for peak season and survive. Essentially if they reduced peak prices they would fill the sites but they are near enough full then anyway. This would mean a major loss of income which would have to be made
up by increasing the rates at other times making them far too expensive and near empty.Unless the market changes then the club cannot.
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prices go up at all chool Holiday dates even the ones in Winter ,Xmas and New year is top price so you can't say that its because its the warmer months
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There is something fundamentally wrong with the pricing structure.Last week end we were at St.Davids. Wonderful weather but the site was half empty at week end. This despite the other CC site in Pembroke (Freshwater East) being closed for refurbishment.
The private site adjacent was busier. We missed out on booking Haven Tenby at £11 Euro pitch as they were full, but paid £18-80 for a grass pitch at St Davids.0 -
But are the prices right? Look at St Davids.onan actual date say 12/5. Non peak.
2015/16 Book Pitch £5-80. Adult £5-10.
Printed 2016 update Pitch £6-30 Adult £5-60
I dont know what the answer is and neither by the sound of it did the lady frm the CC who just phoned. Are the other prices incorrect?
What you are actually charged Pitch £6-80 Adult £6-00
As I pointed out in the Site Pricing posting there has been a response from HO by e-mail in which they try to explain the discrepancies. :-
I've had a response from HO regarding the price differences you highlighted. :-
I have been in touch with our Marketing department who are responsible for our sites’ prices. They have advised that unfortunately the price list on our website, and the one that you have been sent, were still listing 2015 prices for St David’s Lleithyr
Meadow. This has been corrected now, although our website is currently down for unplanned maintenance. I have asked them to ensure that the other sites listed on the document are correct with 2016 prices to save any further confusion. I would like to take
this opportunity to thank you for bringing this error to our attention. Please accept my sincere apologies for the inconvenience this may have caused.If you have any further queries, please do let us know.
Kind regards
Kate Parrin
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Do they? If turnover at off peak times increases, it will subsidise reductions at peak.
We're led to believe sites are virtually full at peak times. Therefore, very few more site nights can be sold.
If site fees are reduced, which is what the OP wants, turnover at peak times will fall, not increase because sites are already full.
The shortfall would need to be recouped by increasing off peak fees but that would not work. People would go elsewhere.
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If you compare prices with neighbouring non club sites for a family then the club sites do very well indeed, also some family sites do kids for a £1 which is even better, also there is no price for the family pooch (haven charges £15 per dog per stay) or
awning (again haven are £15 per stay) Add that all up it makes a big difference.Also the club classes children as up to and including 17, where again Haven it is 15.
Never had to pay for awning yet, and only £1 a night for dog.
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