12 noon departure 1.00 pm arrival
Some previous threads have discussed this subject particularly since the C & CC changed earliest arrival time to 1.00 pm. If you are travelling from home or a reasonable distance between sites then should not be a problem. However if the travel time between sites is less than an hour and there are no suitable laybyes or other stopping places then it can be a real problem.
We recently moved from the North Yorkshire Moors site to the C & CC site at Scarborough and even though the warden let us stay on until after 12 noon we had to take a more indirect route to avoid arriving early. We have experienced this before moving between Rowntree Park and Knaresborough site where York departure is a rigid 11.15 am and Knaresborough a similar 1.00 pm arrival. Journey time is only approximately 45 min and therefore you need to know the few laybyes that can accommodate caravans between the two site to lose an hour.
I realise Rowntree Park departure is an exception but it serves to illustrate a problem that could occur if all arrivals move to 1.00 pm especially at busy times when many popular sites insist on 12.00 noon departure. We have a caravan so it may be more of a potential problem to us than motorhomes but I would appreciate your views before any change is implemented. I have a vision of a lot of very full laybyes.
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I have not heard about any general change. However, more sites have moved to the 12:00 / 13:00 scenario, often for quite spurious reasons. I think the main reason for the change is the fact folk cannot be trusted not to turn up before 12:00. So by moving
it to 13:00 it builds in a buffer, even if people still turn up early. I don't mind when we are on BST, but as soon as we go to GMT in October, a 1pm arrival means it is starting to go dark by the time you are set up.0 -
FR, I see it as purely 'time management' it's a case of checking the route you intend to use by research & have a 1st & 2nd choice of stop off. Most folk tend to turn up later than sooner. The research is better than a refused entry. Good luck
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On previous threads we have seen suggestions for no arrivals before 1600 hrs---- no arrivals at all on certain days ---- arrivals at 1000 hrs ETC ETC.
The CC head office have made excellent rules regarding arrivals and departures. We all signed up to those rules.
Yes, there are selfish people breaking those rules but it's the Warden's job to enforce them and take punitive action against those who think the rules don't apply to them.
That people are getting away with breaking the rules is not the fault of CC head office, IMO it's down to the Warden Staff not enforcing them.
Head Office will decide any changes to any rules. So until they decide to alter them We should all support head office's current rules.
K
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".......before any change is implemented."
We have no idea whether a general change is being planned and, as K said, the various options have been debated again and again. Let's not jump the gun here but, if it happens, we'll either cope as it's no big deal or go elsewhere.
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Totally agree with Kennine and just noticed that Royal Vale (Knutsford) Affiliated Site has a 'Please arrive after 3pm' rule - now that could cause problems later in the year - everyone arriving in the dusk/dark!
Write your comments here...OK what's the problem , I've visited that site & cl's with the same arrival times , you'll probably find it's done for a reason that may just be important to the running of the site management /duties .
It may be an inconvenience to some , but unfortunately That's the sites decision not the visitors........
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Don't move such short distances, that will cure it
sorry naughty I know. I personal can't understand folk that just move a short distance
especially with a caravan, if its only 45mins drive between sites why bother moving at all. Sightseeing can be done with a car, we used to move at least a couple of hours away when we had a caravan prefering to move less an have a bigger circle of area to
investigate. Haven't changed much now we have a motorhome.0 -
Having a decent map for an area can help, shows different routes and possible stop off points. The OP has the whole of the North York Moors to play with on this transfer, huge pull in at the Flask Inn area, and that is on main road! Lots of smaller car parks
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Don't move such short distances, that will cure it
sorry naughty I know. I personal can't understand folk that just move a short distance
especially with a caravan, if its only 45mins drive between sites why bother moving at all. Sightseeing can be done with a car, we used to move at least a couple of hours away when we had a caravan prefering to move less an have a bigger circle of area to
investigate. Haven't changed much now we have a motorhome.We frequently move a short distance between sites, as one area can be totally different from another within 20 mls. We like sites where we can need use the car for a period and explore locally on foot. The hour difference between departure and arrival will
cause us problems. We very rarely use a club site or CL where the arrival time is 1:00 or later, finding alternatives.0 -
I dislike sites with 1pm arrival. OK if a site has a particular problem I understand. In such cases a 11am departure and 12O'clock arrival would suit me better.
We move sites usually every 5 nights. As we are up by 7am (I am often up earlier and go for a shower by 6.30am) we arer ready to go easily by 10 am even if we decide on having a late cooked breakfast. Late being after 9am. If the next site is 2 hours drive
then that means twiddling fingers for an hour. Usually we leave site if returning home or on a longer hop as early as 8 am and certainly by 8.30.The worst part however is that on arrival by the time we have set up and had a brew and lunch at a 1pm arrival it is 2pm or later. Don't like that. I like to be free to pop out locally by 1pm.
We are of course all different
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The C&CC did change to 1pm arrivals this year, but received a masive amount of flack for it.
They are likely to change to 11am departures and 12noon arrivals next year.
Very sensible!
Possibly the most unpopular change to the rules ever. Frankly with sites like theirs at Scarborough having well over 200 pitches and staff escorting you to your pitch I cannot see it being possible to site everyone within a sensible tome on busy days.
I had not seen anything to say the rules were changing next year but try to picture the job of getting weekenders off the site by 11.00 on a Sunday.
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The C&CC did change to 1pm arrivals this year, but received a masive amount of flack for it.
They are likely to change to 11am departures and 12noon arrivals next year.
Very sensible!
I agree - much better. Would not be happy with a 1pm arrival. Hopefully the CC will do 11am off and 12.00 on for all sites with zero tolerance for early arrivals unless it is a genuine
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The C.C.C. arrival time surprise , surprise was introduced at exactly the same time as the minimum wage was increased . Does that not say something ! The reason was -so that the staff could prepare the pitches - No - so that the CCC could jiggle the
Site Managers and Assistant Site Managers contracts to give them a lunch break and then at the end of the day employ fewer Site Mangers/ Assistants, or reduce the hours of those already on site !Please CC keep up the standards of kitted out Wardens with uniforms and Safety Gear !
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Please CC keep up the standards of kitted out Wardens with uniforms and Safety Gear
CC wardens often seem to have an excess of 'kit' in the form of multiple trailers, mowing devices of all sizes etc. Sometimes it definitely seems to get into the 'toys for boys' realms but I am sure it is all essential really.
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When caravanning I am on holiday and have no interest in getting up early just to be packed up and gone before noon. Also, I would be really surprised if I arrived at a site before 5 pm. So I have already been suggesting the Club adopt staggered departure and arrival times, which are arranged at time of booking. This would solve the matter for those with a short trip to the next site.
I cannot see what the difference could be between grass being cut on a vacated pitch at 12:30 pm and 3:30pm.
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When I was working I would be up by 6am I had an alarm set for 6.30 but would switch it off long before it could ring. At the weekend then I could not abide waking up later. Seemed like a waste of the day to me. A a concession to being retired the alarm
is set for 7am now. I still wake up well before. Usually up between 5.45am and 6.30am.Also I could never abide having a lie in if I had woken. As often said we are all different.
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When I was working I would be up by 6am I had an alarm set for 6.30 but would switch it off long before it could ring. At the weekend then I could not abide waking up later. Seemed like a waste of the day to me. A a concession to being retired the alarm
is set for 7am now. I still wake up well before. Usually up between 5.45am and 6.30am.Also I could never abide having a lie in if I had woken. As often said we are all different.
Same here ET. 4.45 in the week so 6am is a lie in and I never go back to sleep.
Staggered arrival would be good but doubt the vlub would do it - we would happily pay a premium to be able to arrive at 9am on site but would have no interest in paying to stay after 12.
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There are, so I have heard, a type of hotel/motel that charges by the hour. I thought that might even better suit the arrival and departure pattern of caravan Club site users until it dawned on me there would be motor caravan users who would be wanting to
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There are, so I have heard, a type of hotel/motel that charges by the hour. I thought that might even better suit the arrival and departure pattern of caravan Club site users until it dawned on me there would be motor caravan users who would
be wanting to not pay for the time they were off-site each day.I think you'll find that type of hotel tends to have a different type of clientele.......
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The CC already have a 24 hour system......a pitch is available for you from 12 noon and you can have it until 12 noon on the day of departure.
Whether you avail yourself of the full time is entirely your choice, of course.
...And up to 28hrs is posiible without add charges
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Just looking at some sites in the Lake District and Coniston park says earliest arrival is 10am !, is that right ?,but that is what it says under the "important information " , so it must be !
This is avery large site and queues back onto the main road would cause chaos so it is a sensible idea as getting everyone in on a busy afternoon might cause a traffic jam in the village.
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