Discussion Forum or Information Provision?

crissy
crissy Forum Participant Posts: 154
edited November 2016 in How to use Club Together #1

A discussion I've recently started, along with several others,  has today been closed.

The reason given is that there were apparently too many similar threads. (Taking dogs abroad)

The implication appeared to be that people only look on the forum for information, not to actually discuss their concerns.

My opinion is that  people log onto a forum not only to ask questions and receive answers but also to actually discuss these answers and give opinions, ask for/provide reassurance etc.

We all know there are books, web pages, information sheets but sometimes you actually want to discuss something, with people who may have experience and knowledge you lack.

This is why each year there are recurring topics. Does this matter?  We're all human. We want to be involved in a discussion not just read ones which have already taken place.

Am I getting it wrong? Are discussion forums not for discussion?

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  • Tinwheeler
    Tinwheeler Forum Participant Trusted Posts: 23,335
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    edited November 2016 #2

    Why can't you discuss your issues in the new thread? What difference does it make?

  • crissy
    crissy Forum Participant Posts: 154
    edited November 2016 #3

    Because the thread was ongoing. The new thread is following a whole new track!

     

  • crissy
    crissy Forum Participant Posts: 154
    edited November 2016 #4

    Read it. Nothing in there is relevant to my thread. Why do I have to start it again in a different place with an inappropriate title?

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited November 2016 #5

    Dont bite my head off, Crissy. I asked a simple question but I get the idea.

  • brue
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    edited November 2016 #6

    It might be better if the pet section was the area to visit for all discussions about animals. That could include travel related subjects in the uk and overseas? edit Perhaps a separate Pet Travel Section. The forum has gradually expanded and it's a bit ad hoc at the moment maybe an improved presentation is in the pipe line?

  • IanH
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    edited November 2016 #7

    Good point Crissy.......this forum is severly over-moderated.

  • moulesy
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    edited November 2016 #8

    In fairness, I believe the thread was closed and the "catch-all" one opened at the request of a fellow member. As the saying goes "you can't please all the people all the time"! Happy

  • huskydog
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    edited November 2016 #9

    In fairness, I believe the thread was closed and the "catch-all" one opened at the request of a fellow member. As the saying goes "you can't please all the people all the time"! Happy

    Yes a non-dog owning member!!!!, made the request Undecided

  • crissy
    crissy Forum Participant Posts: 154
    edited November 2016 #10

    Apologies Tinwheeler. Didn't mean to bite your head off. Like my dog, barks worse than my bite!

  • crissy
    crissy Forum Participant Posts: 154
    edited November 2016 #11

    I agree with Brue. I suspect that the request was from a none dog owner and  the opinions and wishes of dog owners have not been considered in this case.

  • moulesy
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    edited November 2016 #12

    Look at the "Overseas touring" index, Crissy! Happy

  • huskydog
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    edited November 2016 #13

    The CC doesn't like us talking about dogs ,Undecided

  • ValDa
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    edited November 2016 #14

    Crissy - one of the old threads (which concerns Overseas travel) is continuing (open) in the Talk about your Pets section 

    Taking your dog on buses in Spain

    Why not ask if the threads that were opened and then closed in the Overseas section can be re-opened and moved into that section, rather than having a separate sticky in the Overseas section .  Stickies may run to hundreds of pages, all of which have to be read to find an answer.   At least in the Pets section it appears that you can ask questions and receive appropriate and informative answers.

    I rather have a feeling that in earlier days it was decided that all questions relating to dogs travelling overseas should be posted in the overseas section - now it appears to have gone in a reverse direction!!!

  • redface
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    edited November 2016 #15

    Actually, Crissy is not wrong in so far that I have, on previous occasions, asked a question seeking general feelings, answers, on a broad front  of opinion only to see  the thread dumped in a narrow banded section and no relevant answers forthcoming.

    I sympathise fully.

  • crissy
    crissy Forum Participant Posts: 154
    edited November 2016 #16

    Thanks for that Valda. Talking about pets really does have connotations of chatting about pets , not caravanning abroad to me. 

     

    If I was searching for information on taking pets abroad that's the last place I'd look! 

  • crissy
    crissy Forum Participant Posts: 154
    edited November 2016 #17

    Just checked, it's in the social room. What's that got to do with caravanning abroad 

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited November 2016 #18

    Crissy

    Perhaps you should e-mail the Community Manager with your thoughts?

    David

  • cyberyacht
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    edited November 2016 #19

    If the existing "Pets" section is considered 'casual chat', then a section "Travelling with Pets" could accomodate debate about issue both in the UK and abroad. 

    Keeping al such 'doggie' matters in one place does prevent the forum becoming an extension of the Kennel Club. Whilst it sometimes appears that ownership of a dog is a condition of membership, there are those who don't like dogs.

  • Oneputt
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    edited November 2016 #20

    Although not brilliant I would use the search facility to look for dog/pets threads on CT I wouldn't try to trawl through 4 years of threads in caravanning abroad.  For info search for dogs came up with 3900 hits and took 3 seconds to list

  • Metheven
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    edited November 2016 #21

    What a lot of barking about nothing, I don't care where it is as my research is done via search engines and official websites. In various places on this forum there is good advice, but it's not a problem weaning it out even for the irregular user. So what
    if it's been answered before, just ask it again for an updated answer and click on 'follow this discussion' as it eventually disappears into oblivion.

  • eurortraveller
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    edited November 2016 #22

    I have just got up, saw the heading and thought this thread might be interesting, but no such luck....it's dogs again. Back to bed.

  • crissy
    crissy Forum Participant Posts: 154
    edited November 2016 #23

    Euro. The topic is irrelevant. I started the topic because there seems to be an attitude that unless you want inane chat, is "What are you doing today", actual discussion and swapping of ideas is frowned on. 

    I'm not criticising inane chat, just saying there's room for both. And also saying there are times when searching the internet for facts is not what it's wanted. It so happened I originally wanted to discuss a topic with others with experience. Unfortunately
    those with no interest in that topic can't cope with that.

    I'm bored with technical discussion on 13 pin plugs. But I wouldn't dream of criticising those for whom this is an important factor in their life. It might be in mine one day.

  • SteveL
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    edited November 2016 #24

    Agree with you Chrissy, and I don't see what's wrong with starting a new thread if you have a question you want answered. some threads get so long they go round In circles and it's hard to pick out the facts. It is also difficiult
    to decide where to put things sometimes - e.g. I started a thread in 'general chat' recently and it got moved to 'entertainment', I'd already debated whether it should have been in 'trivia'!

    just had another thought, is it my imagination or do 'blank pages' seem to appear more frequently in longer threads? Sorry a bit off topic

  • brue
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    edited November 2016 #25

    I don't think Your Pets in the Social Room implies it's full of inane chat. There are all sorts of topics in there and people are helpful responding to questions.You can have a serious discussion on a subject, no-one frowns at new topics where help or advice is needed. Apart from that the forum has expanded gradually and that means changes to some areas.

  • cyberyacht
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    edited November 2016 #26

    A comprehensive FAQ about matters caravanning would be a useful resource to which initial enquiries on a subject could be directed.

  • Aspenshaw
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    edited November 2016 #27

    Looking at the comments on the opening screen for 'Discussions' it says, "The discussions section is a great way to interact with other members in the caravan community. It's the place to discuss news, share experiences, voice your opinions or ask for some
    advice." Looks like the Mods might have got it wrong in Crissy's case so I'd suggest she contacts them and explores how her post can be reframed to standalone.

  • crissy
    crissy Forum Participant Posts: 154
    edited December 2016 #28

    Thank you Aspenshaw.