What a silly school (and Headteacher)

Cornersteady
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edited July 2016 in General Chat #1

Four teenage boys have worn skirts to school in protest at being disciplined for wearing shorts on the hottest day.

The year nine students at Longhill High School in Rottingdean, East Sussex, were among about 20 boys who wore PE shorts instead of trousers on Tuesday.

Some were sent home, and others kept in isolation and excluded the next day.

When the four boys turned up in school skirts on Thursday, head teacher Kate Williams said they could "wear any part of the agreed school uniform"

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  • SteveL
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    edited July 2016 #2

    Does seem a bit of an over reaction on the schools part. Surely a more sensible course of action would have been to permit them on Tuesday, because of the exceptional conditions, but make it clear that normal uniform would be required next day. After all
    it was known the conditions were a one day event and any repetitions in the 2016 school year unlikely.

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited July 2016 #3

    I wish my headmaster had insisted I shouldn't wear shorts. especially in the dead of winter!!! I think Kate Williams is very cleaver as she called their bluff and I bet they felt stupid all day!!!

    David

  • Kennine
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    edited July 2016 #4

    Well done to that head teacher.  . . Well handled protest. 

      From now on any boys who are members of the LGBT community will be able to express their sexuality openly.

    K

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  • Rubytuesday
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    edited July 2016 #6

    Well done the boys I say.  Just goes to show even school heads are very much lacking in common sense ! 

  • Cornersteady
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    edited July 2016 #7

    Well done the boys I say.  Just goes to show even school heads are very much lacking in common sense ! 

    In this case I would agree, maybe she did show some cunning as DK says, but it should not have got to that point

  • paul56
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    edited July 2016 #8

    I can't see the problem in wearing shorts - they were their PE shorts as opposed to flowery Bermuda shorts etc and it must be almost the last days of term and things are winding down.

    Now if the boys were going to try to turn it into a regular occurance and push the boundaries.... Further, we don't know potentially important background information.

  • Paul Rainbow
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    edited July 2016 #9

    We had a male teacher that used to wear leathers skirts Back in the eighties. He was the talk of the town as you can imagine, the school tried to ban him, but he won!

    surprised the school does not have shorts as part of the uniform.

  • SteveL
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    edited July 2016 #10

    Always remember it being a battle to go either open necked shirt/ blazer less for the boys (whilst the girls were in summer dresses!), when the weather was warm. Head said there was a uniform dress code and we all needed to comply. Interesting that this
    school seems to be quite rigid in its uniform code. So many are not these days. The hot weather was forecast, it might have been sensible to relax the dress code for the duration

  • David2115
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    edited July 2016 #11

    The head teacher was correct and needs to be supported. The dress code should be followed as should all the school rules. No wonder teachers are leaving the profession. 

  • Rubytuesday
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    edited July 2016 #12

    Well if that's an educated show of lack of common sence  by a headteacher ,on three  of the  hottest days of the year , "what an example " teachers and pupils need some flexibility it's what education is about educating and  learning to compromise , so if
    teachers are leaving the profession because they don't want to compromise they have made the right choice 

  • Cornersteady
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    edited July 2016 #13

    Agree, rules operate and should be followed when conditions are normal, when the temperature exceeds 30C that is not normal and some flexibility should have been used, comon sense as you say. As someone said they were the school's PE shorts, the picture
    even showed the school badge on them.

  • papgeno
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    edited July 2016 #14

    At my grandson's school the teachers seem to wear whatever suits (no pun intendied) them.  I've seen them wearing all sorts of outfits which would even stretch the definition of casual. The pupils of course wear their uniforms, although short trousers are
    allowed.

  • ABM
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    edited July 2016 #15

    I'm  sitting  here  thinking  !!

    Thoughts  of  18-year  old  six-footers  in  grey  flannel  shorts  are  clashing  in  my  tiny  mind  with  the  diminutive  11  year-olds  strolling  around  in  long  trousers 
    Laughing.

    Seriously  why  did  these  obviously  aware  youngsters  not  approach  their  Form  Master/Mistress  to  make  their  case  &  get  the  relaxation of  dress  Code  first  ?

    Negotiation  before  Confrontation Wink

  • DEBSC
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    edited July 2016 #16

    Good on the lads for wearing skirts. It shows that these pupils have got some thought about them, hard for lads of that age to have the confidence to turn up in a skirt. Shows they are prepared to make a stand for common sense. Does make the Head look ridiculous
    for not being able to compromise.

  • David2115
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    edited July 2016 #17

    Completely disagree, the head teacher was correct, what was going to happen to the children wearing long trousers. Would they melt, dehydrate, feint... ? I very much doubt it. We have to respect authority and rules of institutions. If we don't it makes the
    job of the teachers impossible. We can't just breal a rule because we want to, standards and discipline is what's important. 

  • DEBSC
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    edited July 2016 #18

    If it's a silly rule to start with then what is wrong to challenge it? Had the lads turned up in shorts for a second day, after being told not to wear them by the head, then that I agree would have been wrong. But the school cannot say only a certain gender
    can wear skirts, clever lads.

  • David2115
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    edited July 2016 #19

    If it's a silly rule to start with then what is wrong to challenge it? Had the lads turned up in shorts for a second day, after being told not to wear them by the head, then that I agree would have been wrong. But the school cannot say only a certain gender
    can wear skirts, clever lads.

    Write your comments here...most of the time people on this forum are staing how rules must be obeyed on the club sites. How fickle !

  • DEBSC
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    edited July 2016 #20

    CC rules are usually in place for health and safety reasons or for the comfort of all members. This schools rules are in place for ... what reason exactly? So that the lads can feel uncomfortable on a hot day in long trousers, while the girls can be reasonably
    cool in skirts. If the school has its pupils well being in mind then they can relax the rules a little so that all pupils can learn in comfort.

  • David2115
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    edited July 2016 #21

    CC rules are usually in place for health and safety reasons or for the comfort of all members. This schools rules are in place for ... what reason exactly? So that the lads can feel uncomfortable on a hot day in long trousers, while the girls can be reasonably
    cool in skirts. If the school has its pupils well being in mind then they can relax the rules a little so that all pupils can learn in comfort.

    Write your comments here...to maintain discipline and continuity I guess 

  • pauline058
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    edited July 2016 #22

    I can remember at Secondary School, we had a real cold snap, and it was before the days of certain temp and you were sent home, message came round all the classrooms, until further notice no uniform, warm clothes, girls can wear trousers including jeans.
    Rather enjoyable time a school it was

  • ABM
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    edited July 2016 #23

    careful  there  Pauline,  you'll  be  getting  Teachers  a  good  reputation  and  we  can't  have  that  now  can  we  !

     

    Brian

    P.S.  Best  wishes  for  the  new  season  too  !!

  • cyberyacht
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    edited July 2016 #24

    Always remember it being a battle to go either open necked shirt/ blazer less for the boys (whilst the girls were in summer dresses!), when the weather was warm. Head said there was a uniform dress code and we all needed to comply. Interesting that this
    school seems to be quite rigid in its uniform code. So many are not these days. The hot weather was forecast, it might have been sensible to relax the dress code for the duration

    All good training for when they visit the dining room on a Cunard cruise. Wink