Near miss

cabbiemick
cabbiemick Forum Participant Posts: 297
edited October 2016 in Caravan & Motorhome Chat #1

Just thought I would let you know of a near miss we had while staying at bognor c c we were sitting in our van when a couple tried pitching opposite us they tried to contract the mover but it never worked so they hitched up and tried to reverse on to the
pitch with his wife showing him back he then got out of the car and went to go to the back of the caravan with that the car and caravan started to move forward he run to the car but fell over his wife was screaming we run out of the caravan luckily it just
missed our caravan but was heading towards another van I got my head in and pulled the handbrake on but not before it flattened the c c light bless them they we're so shook up I plotted there van up for them while my wife made a cup of tea it turned out that
the leisure battery was flat and he thought he had put car in park but it was in drive 

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  • Pippah45
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    edited October 2016 #2

    How lucky it was such minor damage - I have done that once with my automatic - thought it was in park and it was in Reverse - luckily I didn't fall over - and I was in the field at home - a lesson learned! 

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2016 #3

    Did that once when hooking up ,thought car was in park,but was still in reverse,it was good job hand brake held on c/vanEmbarassed

  • EmilysDad
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    edited October 2016 #4

     .... I got my head in and pulled the handbrake on but  ... 

    Well done ... duty hero! Cool

    Good job it wasn't a Mercedes with a foot operated parking brake Wink

  • Wildwood
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    edited October 2016 #5

    Pity you did not video it, you could have put it on You've been framed. 

  • SELL
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    edited October 2016 #6

    Is that Manuals 1 automatics 0 (lol)

  • EmilysDad
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    edited October 2016 #7

    some modern day auto's will take themselves out of drive if you open the door, though my Merc & Smarts will just warn you

  • RoyandBev
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    edited October 2016 #8

    Did same thing when I left my motor mover on and had to get out and take it of forgot to put in park and off it went wife pulled on handbrake eventually.

    Now have motor home but I have to say after manual and Auto when it comes to towing a van, autos rock, better in every possible way, if we go back to a van (very doubtful) it will be auto all the way.

    Auto, manual or whatever nothing will ever overcome the human ability to be stupid and I include myself in that description we all are sometime.

    On another thought just wonder how the insurance company would view an accident by a moving car, engine running, in gear, handbrake off and no driver that would be a very interesting claim form indeed just glad I didn’t have to fill one in on that occasion.

    Just my thoughts and of course I could be wrong

  • Vulcan
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    edited October 2016 #9

    Why would you ever get out of a vehicle without applying the handbrake, unfortunately a lot of people nowadays have forgotten what the hand brake is for.

  • RoyandBev
    RoyandBev Forum Participant Posts: 84
    edited October 2016 #10

    Why would you ever get out of a vehicle without applying the handbrake, unfortunately a lot of people nowadays have forgotten what the hand brake is for.

    Write your comments here...

    It is called a mistake, slip up, rushing an oversight etc Vulcan sadly most of us mortals are susceptible to them now and then some of us even admit to them though many don’t.

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2016 #11

    Why would you ever get out of a vehicle without applying the handbrake, unfortunately a lot of people nowadays have forgotten what the hand brake is for.

    ...Autos  have a P for park why use handbrake?

  • Vulcan
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    edited October 2016 #12

    Why would you ever get out of a vehicle without applying the handbrake, unfortunately a lot of people nowadays have forgotten what the hand brake is for.

    ...Autos  have a P for park why use handbrake?

    Because apart from common sense it is a legal requirement.

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2016 #13

    Why would you ever get out of a vehicle without applying the handbrake, unfortunately a lot of people nowadays have forgotten what the hand brake is for.

    ...Autos  have a P for park why use handbrake?

    Because apart from common sense it is a legal requirement.

    ...??Undecided

  • Vulcan
    Vulcan Forum Participant Posts: 670
    edited October 2016 #14

    Why would you ever get out of a vehicle without applying the handbrake, unfortunately a lot of people nowadays have forgotten what the hand brake is for.

    Write your comments here...

    It is called a mistake, slip up, rushing an oversight etc Vulcan sadly most of us mortals are susceptible to them now and then some of us even admit to them though many don’t.

    You are quite right RoyandBev, we do all make mistakes from time to time however, the point I am making is that as we can see from some of these posts many people nowadays deliberately
    fail to apply the handbrake either through ignorance or laziness.

  • Metheven
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    edited October 2016 #15

    I never apply the handbrake when parking on my level drive for the night, it's into 'park', switch off engine, get out and lock up. Why apply the handbrake in those circumstances and it's certainly not illegal.

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2016 #16

    I never apply the handbrake when parking on my level drive for the night, it's into 'park', switch off engine, get out and lock up. Why apply the handbrake in those circumstances and it's certainly not illegal.

    Write your comments here...+1

  • cyberyacht
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    edited October 2016 #17

    Sometimes you don't pull it on hard enough. I had my Spanish hire car roll down the hill and across the road, wedging itself against the kerb. Spotting it from my balcony, I rushed down to redeem the situation just as a Guardia Civil patrol drove past. Embarassed

  • IanH
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    edited October 2016 #18

    This (and many other articles available on the internet) gives reasons why you should always use the parking brake, even on an automatic set to
    'park'.

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2016 #19

    If parked on our driveway or on site usually leave car in first gear (manual) and no handbrake. On the highway I use the brake. 

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2016 #20

    There was a problem with some cars when all round disc brakes were first fitted,   that if the handbrake was not applied really hard   ,as the brake disc cooled down the hand brake did not hold,  so it was advised to put the car in first or reverse gear as added precausion,it did not apply to the auto versions as they had the P on the gearbox,

     A VW Golf got stopped by a tree when that happened in our road,and a friend of ours Citrion? knocked a wall over

  • IanH
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    edited October 2016 #21

    I must admit, when I had a Saab, you could only remove the ignition key when it was in first gear.

    Apparantly this was because in Sweden they often don't use the parking brake because it can freeze and then won't release.

    Incidently, the ignition was down near the transmission tunnel at side of the driver.....apparantly to prevent it sticking in you in the event of an accident. They thought of everything did Saab Wink

  • peegeenine
    peegeenine Forum Participant Posts: 548
    edited October 2016 #22

    On a level private driveway I can see no problem, after all, my MH is parked on my drive with parking brake off. It's in gear with a chock behind one wheel.

    I cringe when I see people jump out of an auto, take their foot off the brake as they do so, and the vehicle moves back or forward or both putting great stain on that little pawl in the auto gearbox. I have seen extreme cases where that little pawl has had
    enough and escaped through the side of the gearbox!

  • Metheven
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    edited October 2016 #23

    The correct way for me unless I'm on my own level drive is, with foot on brake move to neutral, apply electronic handbrake, foot off brake to allow car to settle on incline, foot on brake and move to park. That way there is no stress on the pawl and it will
    come out of park easier next time, all done in a second. 

  • EmilysDad
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    edited October 2016 #24

    Why would you ever get out of a vehicle without applying the handbrake, unfortunately a lot of people nowadays have forgotten what the hand brake is for.

    ...Autos  have a P for park why use handbrake?

    Because apart from common sense it is a legal requirement.

    Is it ... I just thoughtthe vehicle had to be secure. I rarely apply the hand/emergency brake of my towcar ..... I will on a hill so the park brake is holding the car rather than the park pawl

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  • SteveL
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    edited October 2016 #26

    I never apply the handbrake when parking on my level drive for the night, it's into 'park', switch off engine, get out and lock up. Why apply the handbrake in those circumstances and it's certainly not illegal.

    always put in park AND apply handbrake in my little automatic - extra security against a run away car!

    ( dont know about other cars but can't turn the engine off in mine unless its in park)

    mrs Steve

  • peegeenine
    peegeenine Forum Participant Posts: 548
    edited October 2016 #27

    I have seen an American MH where selecting P also operates an electric parkbrake. I can't remember the name but it was a long time ago. The americans never seem to use a parking brake and I wondered if it was configured this way to stop the owners wrecking
    the auto box.

    I too think it is a legal requirement to apply the parking brake when leaving the vehicle but I wouldn't swear to it. The P position on an auto box is not a brake so if it is a legal requirement then it would not comply.

  • Metheven
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    edited October 2016 #28

    Mine also has to be in 'park' to enable engine switch off, also my level drive has chippings and can't run on its own so 'park' alone will suffice.

  • Vulcan
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    edited October 2016 #29

    I never apply the handbrake when parking on my level drive for the night, it's into 'park', switch off engine, get out and lock up. Why apply the handbrake in those circumstances and it's certainly not illegal.

    Rule 239

    • you MUST apply the handbrake before leaving the vehicle
    •  

    Park (P) should only be engaged when the vehicle is stationary. If any other gear position is selected while the vehicle is stationary, the vehicle can move unexpectedly, which may result in death or serious injury.
    Always make sure the parking brake is applied after engaging P.

  • Metheven
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    edited October 2016 #30

    What, on my own drive!

  • Metheven
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    edited October 2016 #31

    As far as i know i could have the car on concrete blocks with no wheels on my drive, with no handbrake applied legally.