Consultant's overtime

Fisherman
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edited July 2016 in General Chat #1

Just read the news report.One consultant paid £375K overtime and the practice seems country wide. Could this be because they are doing private work and then use the NHS at ovetime rates?. My friend has been waiting 3 years for a cataract op. Made enquiries
2 weks  weeks ago about going privateSame consultant will do it on 18/8, just 5 weeks later. if he pays £2K+ .Is this the real reason for waiting lists- make them long and the punters will pay Seems its a grass root change the NHS needs and not more money
to line the wrong pockets.

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  • taffyY
    taffyY Forum Participant Posts: 326
    edited July 2016 #2

    Not sure about that  but I can only say that when I had surgery privately, the surgeon had to do his private work outside the NHS surgery hours when the operating theatre was available.  My surgery was delayed by 2 hours because an emergency came in for NHS surgery.  My consultant also did NHS work in the same hospital (I was in the private wing) and had to pay, the theatre fees, the anaesthetist and the fee for the private wing out of his fee and seemed to be in the hospital from early in the morning to very late at night.

  • redface
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    edited July 2016 #3

    As with a lot of jobs, overtime becomes available because of sickness elsewhere on the rosta. Many is the time that I have the option to do overtime in order that a job could be finished. It was not compulsory but the boss usually appreciated it. If the
    situation is really bad, then 'Triple Pay' usually helps to make the mind up.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited July 2016 #4

    from what I read on the BBC website this is due to a shortage in consultants, but the 'average' overtime is about £150 per hour. 

    My in laws both had cataract opeartions but they were done within 6 months on the NHS at the Sunderland Eye Infirmary, so it must vary from region to region

  • tombar
    tombar Forum Participant Posts: 408
    edited July 2016 #5

    UndecidedShould come over to England Fisherman.  OH waited a couple of weeks, and my mother just a month.  Don't know where "years" come
    into it

  • IanH
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    edited July 2016 #6

    Shockingly poor management of resources.

    Sadly typical of the 'plenty more where that came from' attitude that is prevalent when dealing with public money.

  • Fisherman
    Fisherman Forum Participant Posts: 2,367
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    edited July 2016 #7

    Our NHS is in "Special measures". Says it all

  • JVB66
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    edited July 2016 #8

    Most of the latest "problems" with the NHS seem to stem from a governments necessity to implement the WTD,  which now as we all know  means hours have been restricted unless you sign the waver ,  that basically means you can do as many hours "overtime" at
    what ever rate the "job" is willing to pay to get it done or vacancy covered , putting more financial pressure on overlooked services 

  • bandgirl
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    edited July 2016 #9

    Time from the hospital receiving the referral from the GP, consultation, treatment/surgery, discharge should be no more than 18 weeks (in England, anyway), unless the patient delays for any reason, such as holiday/unrelated ill health etc.

  • IanH
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    edited July 2016 #10

    Do you ever wonder about the targets that the NHS are set?

    18 weeks to see a consultant!!

    4 hours to be seen in Acceident & Emergency!!!!

    Not exactly pushing them to the limit! (and even then, they regularly miss these targets)

  • bandgirl
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    edited July 2016 #11

    The whole treatment pathway should be completed within 18 weeks, Ian, not 18 weeks to see a consultant.

  • JVB66
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    edited July 2016 #12

    Do you ever wonder about the targets that the NHS are set?

    18 weeks to see a consultant!!

    4 hours to be seen in Acceident & Emergency!!!!

    Not exactly pushing them to the limit! (and even then, they regularly miss these targets)

    ..Since when has an emergency been 4hrs waiting times in A&E can be 4hrs but you will be seen by Triage? Nurse well before that who will assets the urgency of you problem,and blue light usually even quicker if needed

  • Fisherman
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    edited July 2016 #13

    Just spoken to my friend as per first post.Got a phone call Moday to say consultant had a cancellation on Tuesday.Turned up at 11.30 am. Job done and away by

    2.45pm.Would this have happened if consultant was working in NHS time? Follow up after consultant returns from Hols on 18/8. Being facetious I wonder if consultant was holidaying in Europe and needed more cash as £ has fallen.

  • JVB66
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    edited July 2016 #14

    I have been attending hospital after being refered by our doctors, and from referal to now including TWO consultant  appointments was started at the beginning of this june(am at the moment on a cc site all wired upSmile