Pitch availability

dave the rave
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edited July 2016 in Club Membership #1

I have just spent 3 nights,pre booked,on a CC site that has a storage facility.My daughter and son in law store their unit at this site.They decided to book a pitch for one night on this site to save a short drive home and spend the evening with us.They
were told on 2/3 occasions that there were no pitches available.I counted at the very least 3 unoccupied pitches within 50 yards of ours!These were empty all day,night and next morning!!!!!!!Is ther any explanation for this????????

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  • IanH
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    edited July 2016 #2

    "Computer say......."

    Some say that the wardens know their site better than anyone........apparantly not, in this case at least.

  • JVB66
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    edited July 2016 #3

    What was the wardens response when you queried it?

  • dave the rave
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    edited July 2016 #4

    I did not query it at the time as it was decided ,in the end,that getting the motor home out,filled with water etc was probably not worth the saving of a 10 minute drive home1 (Plus the overpriced pitch charge!!!!!)

  • Wildwood
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    edited July 2016 #5

    Not sure which site it is but could be late cancelations and no shows. Very rarely we have been on a site when every pitch was occupied even though fully booked. As the computer arranges the bookings it is unlikely to be the wardens who caused the problem.

  • JVB66
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    edited July 2016 #6

    Nothing further can be said then is there as it just sounds like a winge without factsUndecided 

  • IanH
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    edited July 2016 #7

    If I were a warden, and I could see that there were empty pitches out there, despite the computer telling me that the site was fully booked, I think I would deduce from this that some people hadn't turned up!

    The computer would probably even concur with that blindingly obvious deduction.

    I would therefore go out of my way to take late bookings in order to fill those empty pitches and to increase income to the Club.

    Is it just me, or isn't that how anyone with even a tiny bit of business acumen and willingness to do the best job possible (for both my employer and other Club members) would behave??

  • gygafo
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    Forgive me if I am wrong here but, I have spent hours looking at site availability only to find some sites fully booked for months in advance. I mentioned this to another member and was informed that because there is no charge to book a site it is common
    practice by some club members block book dates and wait for the right weather! In my humble opinion, if you know what dates you want to book you should book and pay there and then online.

  • JVB66
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    edited July 2016 #9



    Forgive me if I am wrong here but, I have spent hours looking at site availability only to find some sites fully booked for months in advance. I mentioned this to another member and was informed that because there is no charge to book a site it is common
    practice by some club members block book dates and wait for the right weather! In my humble opinion, if you know what dates you want to book you should book and pay there and then online.

    From info it seems..things have improved since the 72hr timescale for cancellations was introduced ,even when in the past deposits were taken it was a worse a problem, but then it was normally just no shows,

  • JVB66
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    edited July 2016 #10

    I did not query it at the time as it was decided ,in the end,that getting the motor home out,filled with water etc was probably not worth the saving of a 10 minute drive home1 (Plus the overpriced pitch charge!!!!!)

    ...What site was it then? so others can be pre warned

  • IanH
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    edited July 2016 #11



    Forgive me if I am wrong here but, I have spent hours looking at site availability only to find some sites fully booked for months in advance. I mentioned this to another member and was informed that because there is no charge to book a site it is common
    practice by some club members block book dates and wait for the right weather! In my humble opinion, if you know what dates you want to book you should book and pay there and then online.

    From info it seems..things have improved since the 72hr timescale for cancellations was introduced ,even when in the past deposits were taken it was a worse a problem, but then it was normally just no shows,

    You cannot possibly know that "things have improved" because the CC refuse to release figures showing how many cancellations there are just outside the 72 hour cut-off.

    My own feeling (supported by numerous people admitting on here that they do it) is that many people do exactly as gygafo says......they book numerous weekends, then wait to see what the weather forecast says or whether they can be bothered to take up the
    booking.

    Nothing that the CC has ever produced contradicts this view.

  • JVB66
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    edited July 2016 #12



    Forgive me if I am wrong here but, I have spent hours looking at site availability only to find some sites fully booked for months in advance. I mentioned this to another member and was informed that because there is no charge to book a site it is common
    practice by some club members block book dates and wait for the right weather! In my humble opinion, if you know what dates you want to book you should book and pay there and then online.

    From info it seems..things have improved since the 72hr timescale for cancellations was introduced ,even when in the past deposits were taken it was a worse a problem, but then it was normally just no shows,

    You cannot possibly know that "things have improved" because the CC refuse to release figures showing how many cancellations there are just outside the 72 hour cut-off.

    My own feeling (supported by numerous people admitting on here that they do it) is that many people do exactly as gygafo says......they book numerous weekends, then wait to see what the weather forecast says or whether they can be bothered to take up the
    booking.

    Nothing that the CC has ever produced contradicts this view.

    Write your comments here..."From info it seems"

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited July 2016 #13

    Whereas your empirical(Undecided) evidence is based on a few folk saying they do it(no wind ups honest your honour) & guesswork. Mmmmm,
    you've got to be right IanLaughingLaughing

  • JVB66
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    edited July 2016 #14

    Without trawling through all posts, was it not stated from a reprsentative of the cc last year that the situation has improved,but no figures were yet availableUndecided

  • papgeno
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    edited July 2016 #15

    I'm sitting here wondering how they can say things have improved if they don't have figures.

  • JVB66
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    edited July 2016 #16

    I'm sitting here wondering how they can say things have improved if they don't have figures.

    ...Most of the information is possibly coming from on site staff who being on the front line would be able to note the decline in non arrivals

  • mickysf
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    edited July 2016 #17

    My experience and observations are that sites are pretty much full wherever I go. I'd reckon that the number cancelling are fewer than some would believe or even would like it to be, for arguments sake or otherwise. No sooner do pitches become available
    it seems, they are snatched up very quickly.

    Such cancellations could be considered beneficial to some as they provide opportunities to book when, like me, work or family circumstances allowed that previously unplanned break. Some may even argue that we need more such cancellations which would provide
    'drip feed availability', not that I'm advocating that mind! The possible issue may be those that don't cancel and don't turn up but I'd bet that they are very, very few in number indeed in my opinion.

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited July 2016 #18

    Micky Boy, I reckon if it ever became a problem there would be a fix put in place. I think the perceived problem is a fallacy one that is periodically aired by folk who have had problems booking. It reflects the health & popularity of the CC's 'product'
    must be a good thingHappy

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  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited July 2016 #20

    BB, is that such a bad thing?

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  • mickysf
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    edited July 2016 #22

    My experience and observations are that sites are pretty much full wherever I go. I'd reckon that the number cancelling are fewer than some would believe or even would like it to be, for arguments sake or otherwise. No sooner do pitches become available
    it seems, they are snatched up very quickly.

    Such cancellations could be considered beneficial to some as they provide opportunities to book when, like me, work or family circumstances allowed that previously unplanned break. Some may even argue that we need more such cancellations which would provide
    'drip feed availability', not that I'm advocating that mind! The possible issue may be those that don't cancel and don't turn up but I'd bet that they are very, very few in number indeed in my opinion.

    ....a drip feed of cancellations aat 72 hrs would be great for you and I, we can go at the drop of a hat and change plans accordingly.

    but those who have schedule their work hloidays months in advance couldnt benefit....in fact, it would be like rubbing salt in the wounds of someone who had tried repeatedly (and failed) to get the site of their choice and had booked somewhere else, only
    to see pitches for their first choice site become available a couple of days prior to their due date....Sad

    I do understand stand the issue for some, however I'd bet that there are far more clinging to the remote hope of a cancellation than cancellations themselves. Just a guess and an opinion mind!

  • EasyT
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    edited July 2016 #23

    My experience and observations are that sites are pretty much full wherever I go. I'd reckon that the number cancelling are fewer than some would believe or even would like it to be, for arguments sake or otherwise. No sooner do pitches become available
    it seems, they are snatched up very quickly.

    Such cancellations could be considered beneficial to some as they provide opportunities to book when, like me, work or family circumstances allowed that previously unplanned break. Some may even argue that we need more such cancellations which would provide
    'drip feed availability', not that I'm advocating that mind! The possible issue may be those that don't cancel and don't turn up but I'd bet that they are very, very few in number indeed in my opinion.

    ....a drip feed of cancellations aat 72 hrs would be great for you and I, we can go at the drop of a hat and change plans accordingly.

    but those who have schedule their work hloidays months in advance couldnt benefit....in fact, it would be like rubbing salt in the wounds of someone who had tried repeatedly (and failed) to get the site of their choice and had booked somewhere else, only
    to see pitches for their first choice site become available a couple of days prior to their due date....Sad

    I would have thought that (depending on time of year and perhaps area) those who had scheduled months in advance would have at least booked the weekend dates.

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  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited July 2016 #25

    Thanks BBHappy

  • Kennine
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    edited July 2016 #26

    Pitch availability problems are a symptom of the CC accepting too many members and their annual fees, without having the infostructure to satisfy their requirements.

    Solution,:---- open more CC campsites !!!!!        OR         Restrict the membership  !!!!!!

    Cool

  • mickysf
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    edited July 2016 #27

    Pitch availability problems are a symptom of the CC accepting too many members and their annual fees, without having the infostructure to satisfy their requirements.

    Solution,:---- open more CC campsites !!!!!      
     OR         Restrict the membership  !!!!!!

    Cool

    Yes, I'd certainly go with the first suggestion and as you say continue making them
    campsites open to as many forms of camping as possible!

  • SteveL
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    edited July 2016 #28

    I am at a bit of a loss. The prices are too expensive, we get nothing for our membership fee, except a magazine filled with adverts! etc etc. Or at least that is what some would have you believe. Yet when the CC do something a bit different than the other operators, no deposit, penalty free cancelation, they are criticised for it.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited July 2016 #29

    Agree with you Steve, also according to some posters club sites are empty, the club has trouble getting people to actually go to the sites as they are so expensive, yet now we have a thread saying that there were three empty pitches and others that they
    have trouble actually booking a pitch in the first place? Which is it?

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  • JayEss
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    edited July 2016 #31

    I think the problem is caused by having the opening day booking fiasco

    It's time for rolling bookings