Water pipe direct to caravan on serviced pitch

Bruiska
Bruiska Forum Participant Posts: 12
edited October 2016 in Caravans #1

Can anyone give me any advice on water connection to caravan from mains pipe . Are you better with a pipe to aqua roll or are you better with a pipe direct to caravan. I have an Elddis affinity 550. I have heard of leaks inside caravan with the later .

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  • DSB
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    edited October 2016 #2

    Personally, I've always gone for the connection from the water tap to the Aquaroll, to be on the safe side.

    David 

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2016 #3

    Just connect a hose to tap, and top up aqua roll as req

  • Cornersteady
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    edited October 2016 #4

    Sorry if you have aready considerd this, but you will need an adaptor in both cases? (if you know this stop reading now and resume further down).

    You could just have a hose pipe from the mains to the aquaroll and refill as necessary, but have blue food grade hose.  One type has a screw in adaptor that screws into your side aquaroll. It has a float so cuts off the water when the aquaroll in half full, that way you have water on demand and won't run out. Another type connects to the caravan inlet and reduced the mains pressure and again its on demand.

    Resume here Advantages of the float type is that you'll always have some water if the mains goes off. Advantages of the other is that you won't have to get the aquaroll out. Some are concerned that the pressure reducing system may fail and flood your van but I don't think I've ever heard of this actually happening. 

    I have the float type and its always worked well. You will also need a connector to connect the mains, these are standard garden type.

  • ChemicalJasper
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    edited October 2016 #5

    ....what he said!

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2016 #6

    Just connect a hose to tap, and top up aqua roll as req

    I don't generally use service pitches but that is the way I would do it. 

     

    Some are concerned that the pressure reducing system may fail and flood your van but I don't think I've ever heard of this actually happening. 

     

    I have had the pressure relief valve that connects into the hot water tank crack and leak. Also had a pushfit connector on the hot water side fail. Guess which method I would choose Winking

  • DSB
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    edited October 2016 #7

    Aquaroll sell a water hook up adapter.  It's a bit like the toilet cistern ball cock which you screw into the centre hole of the aquaroll.  If you connect up and leave the water tap on, on the pitch, when you turn on the caravan tap to take water from the Aquaroll,  the ball cock drops and allows the water to fill the Aquaroll from the tap.

    David 

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2016 #8

    As I said, having twice had a leak I would choose not to. When we were on the site at Meathop Fell we returned to site to hear a neighbour water pump rattling round in an empty aquaroll and water drippomg out of the 'van gas drop holes. I disconnected the
    pump but I suspect that he was glad not to have an endless supply of water. 

  • ChemicalJasper
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    edited October 2016 #9

    ....I always flick the pump off when we leave the van, the switch is by the door - safe all ways then!

  • IanH
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    edited October 2016 #10

    We have the float valve in Aquaroll type. Brilliant when it works, but ours stopped working after about 6 days and I found the barrel over-flowing.

    Contacted Hitchmans (extremely friendly and very helpful) and they said I could return it for a replacement.

    Tried it when we got home and it worked!

    Tried it again on a site in France recently and found the barrel overflowing as soon as it filled up.

    Just sent it back.......

  • ChemicalJasper
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    edited October 2016 #11

    Made my own for about £7 from a spare cap and the cheapest loo float valve from B&Q. 

  • Boff
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    edited October 2016 #12

    A Torbeck side entry valve is what you need.  Plus a few bits of garden hose fittings and an aquaroll cap. 

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2016 #13

    ....I always flick the pump off when we leave the van, the switch is by the door - safe all ways then!

    Many do and they also forget on occasion. I switch it off when we go out ...................................... although often forget!

  • Briang
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    edited October 2016 #14

    Personally, I've always gone for the connection from the water tap to the Aquaroll, to be on the safe side.

    David 

    This is what we use.

  • tigerfish
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    edited October 2016 #15

    Me Too!

    TF

  • AutoAddict
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    edited October 2016 #16

    Personally, I've always gone for the connection from the water tap to the Aquaroll, to be on the safe side.

    David 

    This is what we use.

    But, if a hose came loose in the 'van, wouldn't the pump still flood your caravan?

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2016 #17

    Not if you simply use the hose to top up the roll as and when

  • Bruiska
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    edited October 2016 #18

    Hi thank for your comments lm sure that they will help me make up my mind how to go about it. 

  • AutoAddict
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    edited October 2016 #19

    Not if you simply use the hose to top up the roll as and when

    But I don't have a roll to fill up!

  • anothersunrise
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    edited October 2016 #20

    We currently use the into the Aqua roll system, but OH wants to go straight from tap to van. While at the NEC we chatted to the Whale man about this and he did say to not leave it on if in France as they have known the pressure can fluctuate, and has been
    known to go as high as 15bar! 

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2016 #21

    I have a different take. We tour around 120 nights in UK moving every 5 nights and often one fill on ammenity sites although we do use non ammenity sites. Some sites we have been on I do not like the position of the serviced pitches and so would carry the
    aquaroll anyway. As it is often one fill do I want to spend £500 a year for 24 fill ups? That is £100 per fill. At the moment I can manage. If I have an aquaroll anyway why connect directly to the van and store an empty aquaroll?  

  • Robster2007
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    edited October 2016 #22

    Well I am new to all this but my first trip out was on a full service pitch.

    I onnected tap directly to the van, mind you I do have an onboard tank, so the water fills my onboard and tops it up again when it is down to 50%.

    All seemed very simple.

    Robin

  • IanH
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    edited October 2016 #23

    I have a different take. We tour around 120 nights in UK moving every 5 nights and often one fill on ammenity sites although we do use non ammenity sites. Some sites we have been on I do not like the position of the serviced pitches and so would carry the
    aquaroll anyway. As it is often one fill do I want to spend £500 a year for 24 fill ups? That is £100 per fill. At the moment I can manage. If I have an aquaroll anyway why connect directly to the van and store an empty aquaroll?  

    How often is it that you spend on each site, ET? I nearly forgot Wink

    Incidently, that's about £21 per fill.......

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2016 #24

    I have a different take. We tour around 120 nights in UK moving every 5 nights and often one fill on ammenity sites although we do use non ammenity sites. Some sites we have been on I do not like the position of the serviced pitches and so would carry the
    aquaroll anyway. As it is often one fill do I want to spend £500 a year for 24 fill ups? That is £100 per fill. At the moment I can manage. If I have an aquaroll anyway why connect directly to the van and store an empty aquaroll?  

    How often is it that you spend on each site, ET? I nearly forgot Wink

    Incidently, that's about £21 per fill.......

    Just making sure that you are awake and keeping up Ian!

  • AstralRanger12
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    edited October 2016 #25

    Serviced pitches are free (of if SteveL is reading "included") on some commercial sites. Happy

  • IanH
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    edited October 2016 #26

    No problem, ET.......they say we have to keep an eye on the old folk as winter approaches Wink

    Actually, I agree with you. We use about 10 litres of water per day......I just use a 10 litre container to fill up the Aquaroll each day and stop doing it 3 days before leaving.

    We have used a serviced pitch and felt quite decadent not filling it up. Less so when the float valve stopped working though Sad

  • nicko
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    edited October 2016 #27

    not sure if i understand some of the comments made here i use serviced pitches normally with the side entry float valve and the only time i have seen a problem was when the pitch next to me connected the hose the wrong way round , with regard flooding caravan
    i fail to understand how this system could cause a problem, as if the barrel overflowed it would not bypass the pump, this should surely only operate when draw was required inside the van caused by some other unrelated problem much like when a microswitch
    on a tap was opened

  • EmilysDad
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    edited October 2016 #28

    not sure if i understand some of the comments made here i use serviced pitches normally with the side entry float valve and the only time i have seen a problem was when the pitch next to me connected the hose the wrong way round , with regard flooding caravan i fail to understand how this system could cause a problem, as if the barrel overflowed it would not bypass the pump, this should surely only operate when draw was required inside the van caused by some other unrelated problem much like when a microswitch on a tap was opened

    Using the set-up that you have, there is no danger at all of flooding your caravan. However there are other ways to connect your caravan at a serviced pitch ie using a specific hose with the Truma fitting direct to the side of the caravan where the pump would usually fit, but it has a pressure reducer fitted for obvious reasons

  • EmilysDad
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    edited October 2016 #29

    one of
    these

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2016 #30

    not sure if i understand some of the comments made here i use serviced pitches normally with the side entry float valve and the only time i have seen a problem was when the pitch next to me connected the hose the wrong way round , with regard flooding caravan
    i fail to understand how this system could cause a problem, as if the barrel overflowed it would not bypass the pump, this should surely only operate when draw was required inside the van caused by some other unrelated problem much like when a microswitch
    on a tap was opened

    The problems only occur where there is a leak in the caravan. The pressure switch detects loss of pressure and activates pump, more leakage etc. As long as a ballcock tops up the aquaroll the leakage can continue. Best option is to switch the pump off when
    going out for the day.

  • nicko
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    edited October 2016 #31

    not sure if i understand some of the comments made here i use serviced pitches normally with the side entry float valve and the only time i have seen a problem was when the pitch next to me connected the hose the wrong way round , with regard flooding caravan
    i fail to understand how this system could cause a problem, as if the barrel overflowed it would not bypass the pump, this should surely only operate when draw was required inside the van caused by some other unrelated problem much like when a microswitch
    on a tap was opened

    The problems only occur where there is a leak in the caravan. The pressure switch detects loss of pressure and activates pump, more leakage etc. As long as a ballcock tops up the aquaroll the leakage can continue. Best option is to switch the pump off when
    going out for the day.

    so its not the servced pitch connection at fault its just that it continues to fill the barrel, the same problem can occur with a full barrel and the water will stop leaking when it runs dry, but the pump will continue running until it burns out?