Hardstandings again

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  • PITCHTOCLOSE
    PITCHTOCLOSE Forum Participant Posts: 658
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    edited January 2016 #32

    As the move towards motor home's continues, the CC should impose a levy on these units to pay for the ever increasing demand for hard standing, CC@C have the same problem with more pitches being made hard standing to the detriment of the tenting section,
    and when the final turf is removed and the car park like planning as been rolled out I will not be a member

  • Tammygirl
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    edited January 2016 #33

    As the move towards motor home's continues, the CC should impose a levy on these units to pay for the ever increasing demand for hard standing, CC@C have the same problem with more pitches being made hard standing to the detriment of the tenting section,
    and when the final turf is removed and the car park like planning as been rolled out I will not be a member

    We are all members of the same club, why should M/H pay a levy, there are many caravans that want H/S. Just roll out the booking system to all sites that have a grass option simples.

  • Tammygirl
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    edited January 2016 #34

    As the club won't pay for recovery if you get stuck on grass with a M/H neither will they tow you off, they should allow booking of H/S

    Mayday will tow you off.

    They will but you will have to wait and it could take you past the 12.00 pointWink

  • Tammygirl
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    edited January 2016 #35

    Wardens must have the details of the outfits they are expecting on their schedule. I was told, once, that they had saved a hard standing pitch for me, which I thought was considerate. H/S would always be my first choice but I’m happy to take whatever comes.

    Which of course is the sensible approach, unfortunatley not all wardens do that.

    In his former life the OH half commanded an ARV (armoured recovery vehicle) so knows a thing or to about  getting out of sticky situations, however I would much prefer not getting into them in the first place.Wink

  • EasyT
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    edited January 2016 #36

    I usually opt for hardstanding. Not afraid of getting bogged down but prefer to be on hard standing on most occasions

  • mickysf
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    edited January 2016 #37

    As the move towards motor home's continues, the CC should impose a levy on these units to pay for the ever increasing demand for hard standing, CC@C have the same problem with more pitches being made hard standing to the detriment of the tenting section,
    and when the final turf is removed and the car park like planning as been rolled out I will not be a member

    Write your comments here...we are all caravaners, will some suggest a levy on tag axle ones, trailer tents or fifth wheeler ones? Same for all, just as it is now, I chose awning, non awning, hard standing or serviced but prefer HS in wet conditions and grass
    in dry. It's great as it is now!

  • Kennine
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    edited January 2016 #38

    As the club won't pay for recovery if you get stuck on grass with a M/H neither will they tow you off, they should allow booking of H/S

    Mayday will tow you off.

    They will but you will have to wait and it could take you past the 12.00 pointWink

    Write your comments here...Nobody.could object to people over running the 12.00 departure time due to awaiting a recovery vehicle.  That's totally acceptable.  

    Its not like they are being part of the something for nothing pitch squatting brigade.  

  • SteveL
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    edited January 2016 #39

    One would also assume that the pitch is unusable anyway, if folk are getting stuck. Or at least not first choice.

  • mickysf
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    edited January 2016 #40

    As the club won't pay for recovery if you get stuck on grass with a M/H neither will they tow you off, they should allow booking of H/S

    Mayday will tow you off.

    They will but you will have to wait and it could take you past the 12.00 pointWink

    Write your comments here...Nobody.could object to people over running the 12.00 departure time due to awaiting a recovery vehicle.  That's totally acceptable.  

    Its not like they are being part of the something for nothing pitch squatting brigade.  

    Write your comments here...I'm sure that good old warden's discretion will click in here, even when circumstances don't facilitate that normally granted slightly later departure!

    Not sure what you mean by the last paragraph K, I presume you mean those that have not followed the rules and have not been officially allowed. 

  • JVB66
    JVB66 Forum Participant Posts: 22,892
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    edited January 2016 #41

    As the club won't pay for recovery if you get stuck on grass with a M/H neither will they tow you off, they should allow booking of H/S

    Mayday will tow you off.

    They will but you will have to wait and it could take you past the 12.00 pointWink

    Write your comments here...Nobody.could object to people over running the 12.00 departure time due to awaiting a recovery vehicle.  That's totally acceptable.  

    Its not like they are being part of the something for nothing pitch squatting brigade.  

    Write your comments here...I'm sure that good old warden's discretion will click in here, even when circumstances don't facilitate that normally granted slightly later departure!

    Not sure what you mean by the last paragraph K, I presume you mean those that have not followed the rules and have not been officially allowed. 

    I think K must mean...the ones who expect to to be allowed to stay after 1600 without add payment as laid down in the rules!!Wink

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  • mickysf
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    edited January 2016 #43

    After 16:00 hrs you pay for the night and can leave the following day if you want! Don't forget those slightly later departures up to 16:00 hrs are subject to site circumstances and not a given, you should seek advice as described in the leaflets! When granted you may be requested to leave earlier than 16:00 hrs too!

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  • JollyKernow
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    edited January 2016 #45

    Here's some info on towing, it applies to all Club run sites (not CL's). The majority of sites will have a compact tractor, that's the one you'll see with a rolbar and is used for mowing and also pulling the site trailer. It will have, the same as your tow vehicle has, a weight plate stating the max weight it can safely pull, along with a weight rated tow ball. Most caravans, including twin axles will be within those towing limits and can be firmly attached and therefore safely towed. Motorhomes on the other hand are generally heavier than the safe towing limit of the site compact tractor and cannot be secured to it as in a caravan tow hitch so therefore it is deemed an unsafe practise to make any attempt to tow. 

  • baileybear
    baileybear Forum Participant Posts: 19
    edited February 2016 #46

    Regarding previous comments on this thread:-

    Imagine the uproar if only one type of pitch was available, i.e. Standard pitch. If you arrived in time, on  a 1st come 1st served basis, and a pitch big enough for you to erect your awning was available,all well and good. If those bigger pitches were all
    taken, however, how  many people would be complaining about not being able to put up their awning?Personally, that wouldn't bother us, as we never use an awning, (unless family members and Big Dog come for a few days!), but as lots of members use awnings,
    we have that option when booking.

    The two VERY unpleasant experiences we had on grass both occurred in the Summer when the grass was waterlogged and very muddy. On the first occasion, the wardens insisted on pitching all vans with their tractor, and all cars had to parked in the visitor
    car park-only 4 wheel drive vehicles being allowed to park next to vans on pitch. The second experience one September was so horrendous we almost gave up caravanning!! The ground was so wet that mud oozed up with every step you took-one visit to the shower
    in crocs meant washing the feet again on entering the van! Didn't do that again-but soon got fed up with having to clean shoes every time we went out. As we also had to put up the awning on that occasion, mud constantly came up through the groundsheet-the
    clean up on returning home was horrendous and took days!! So all we ask is the option to book H/S when booking, an extra box in the booking section of the site details. Not too much to ask is it?

  • SteveL
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    edited February 2016 #47

    Whilst we much prefer a hardstanding pitch and would book one, if that facility was available, I don't view it as a major stumbling block for a caravan. Unless you go to a site which is dominantly grass.  ( and you would know this in advance) there are normally enough people who want to be on grass, that hardstandings are availabe. We have only very rarely been forced to take a grass pitch because no hardstandings were available, even at busy times. Of course if you really want to be sure, there are quite a few sites that are all hardstanding.

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  • SteveL
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    edited February 2016 #49

    I think most take the grass out of use in the winter months. Certainly Malvern, which lets you book pitch type, will only let you book grass from May to the end of September.

  • JollyKernow
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    edited February 2016 #50

    It doesn't have to be just winter for grass pitches to be taken out of use. The warden will decide which ones and how many etc and have them removed from the computer system so they can't be booked at any time. They will then decide if and when they get put back on sale. Sometimes it can be a gamble as the last thing we want is to lose pitches. The wet summers we're experiencing are making that decision somewhat easier though!I think it's a bit clearer now on the website (if that's possible!!) that at least you know what pitch type is available, unless I'm mistaken? The site I'll be running this year says "grass with awning" on the booking page as it's an all grass site.

     

  • Tammygirl
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    edited February 2016 #51

    It doesn't have to be just winter for grass pitches to be taken out of use. The warden will decide which ones and how many etc and have them removed from the computer system so they can't be booked at any time. They will then decide if and when they get
    put back on sale. Sometimes it can be a gamble as the last thing we want is to lose pitches. The wet summers we're experiencing are making that decision somewhat easier though!I think it's a bit clearer now on the website (if that's possible!!) that at least
    you know what pitch type is available, unless I'm mistaken? The site I'll be running this year says "grass with awning" on the booking page as it's an all grass site.

     

    doesn't appear to be the case JK, I've just checked my local site Forfar Lochside, there are grass pitches there (10) but when booking it just says standard pitch with awning, nothing about grass pitches.

  • moulesy
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    edited February 2016 #52

    It doesn't have to be just winter for grass pitches to be taken out of use. The warden will decide which ones and how many etc and have them removed from the computer system so they can't be booked at any time. They will then decide if and when they get
    put back on sale. Sometimes it can be a gamble as the last thing we want is to lose pitches. The wet summers we're experiencing are making that decision somewhat easier though!I think it's a bit clearer now on the website (if that's possible!!) that at least
    you know what pitch type is available, unless I'm mistaken? The site I'll be running this year says "grass with awning" on the booking page as it's an all grass site.

     

    doesn't appear to be the case JK, I've just checked my local site Forfar Lochside, there are grass pitches there (10) but when booking it just says standard pitch with awning, nothing about grass pitches.

    Isn't that because it's not an all-grass site and it's not one of the trial sites either, so you just get the usual message about a standard pitch being either HS or grass?

  • Tammygirl
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    edited February 2016 #53

    It doesn't have to be just winter for grass pitches to be taken out of use. The warden will decide which ones and how many etc and have them removed from the computer system so they can't be booked at any time. They will then decide if and when they get put back on sale. Sometimes it can be a gamble as the last thing we want is to lose pitches. The wet summers we're experiencing are making that decision somewhat easier though!I think it's a bit clearer now on the website (if that's possible!!) that at least you know what pitch type is available, unless I'm mistaken? The site I'll be running this year says "grass with awning" on the booking page as it's an all grass site.

     

    doesn't appear to be the case JK, I've just checked my local site Forfar Lochside, there are grass pitches there (10) but when booking it just says standard pitch with awning, nothing about grass pitches.

    Isn't that because it's not an all-grass site and it's not one of the trial sites either, so you just get the usual message about a standard pitch being either HS or grass?

    I might have mis understood JK's post M, as I thought he was saying that all sites will now give you the option of booking H/S or grass if there are both, but as his site is all grass it says grass with awning. Apologies if this is not the case.

  • moulesy
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    edited February 2016 #54

    No, I think it's only the same trial ones as last year where you get a choice. They're still waiting to evaluate the results of the trial, I guess!

  • JollyKernow
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    edited February 2016 #55

    Apologies, didn't mean to mislead TG, I've only looked at the site I'm running on the web, and as I said, it's a grass site.

    One site's enough to think about for me!!!

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  • Tammygirl
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    edited February 2016 #57

    No, I think it's only the same trial ones as last year where you get a choice. They're still waiting to evaluate the results of the trial, I guess!

    Frown would have thought 1 year was enoughUndecided considering
    how many folk keep asking for it.

  • Tammygirl
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    edited February 2016 #58

    Apologies, didn't mean to mislead TG, I've only looked at the site I'm running on the web, and as I said, it's a grass site.

    One site's enough to think about for me!!!

    no problem JK, you're forgiven Laughing you are after all on holidayCool

  • Tammygirl
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    edited February 2016 #59

    i wonder if trialling the same five sites this year will produce a different answer to last yearUndecided 

    i believe Albert Einstein had an opinion on this oneSad

    guess that will depend on the weather, if we get a nice hot sunny dry summerUndecided then we might well get folk screaming for grass pitches, but not me give me the H/S everytime and a nice bit of grass between for me to sit onWink

    Not that I'll be on a CC site Cool

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited February 2016 #60

    i wonder if trialling the same five sites this year will produce a different answer to last yearUndecided 

    i believe Albert Einstein had an opinion on this oneSad

    Which thread did He post on BB?Tongue OutLaughing

  • keithfiddy
    keithfiddy Forum Participant Posts: 27
    edited February 2016 #61

    I use H/S all the time but i dont agree you should be able too book them as i,m a great believer in the first come first served way of working.Its the only fair way IMO.

    peter.

    Here here Volvo man I agree with you, first come system has worked well for many years. I think that booking your hardstanding is okay until the day comes you want to extend your stay.  If your pitch is then pre booked you would then have to move onto a grass pitch.